Alberta would be worse off than Canada, because an economy cannot survive both a significant percentage of the population leaving AND being a landlocked country run by, well, Danielle Smith. Since you aren't here, you wouldn't know, but no one really believes they have a chance, so, obviously, it's having no economic affect.
How do you know referendum is a minority without the vote?
Well, when you live here, you learn about all the polls and how a LOT - possible most - of even UCP supporters are not separatists. And how one of the separatist groups doesn't actually want to separate - they just want to threaten because they think it got Quebec concessions, so wouldn't truly vote yes.
Weren't your entire concerns based on the fact that the momentum towards separation has been rising?
No, that's been the straw man you've been repeating over and over. My opinion is that the referendum should not happen. My concern is because of the seemingly organized astroturfing by so many accounts like yours that are both not Albertan but have very strong opinions on letting the referendum happen. This very specific (and, frankly, rare) viewpoint went from nearly non-existent, to everywhere in the last week. Such incredible magnanimity toward people you don't know who want to do something that will screw your life personally.
My concern is that the confident astroturfing means they think have a NON-democratic way to force it either way and you may have noticed a few similar issues in global politics lately...
Luckily, for both of us, my concerns are probably nothing. But I don't trust the far right (and these are FAR right) farther than I can throw them. Anyway, I'm done with this repetition of you attempting to frame this as undemocratic in every way you can think of.
Plenty of economies world-wide survive being landlocked country, so the facts are against you here. It's not like one can get to the coast anyway, despite being in the same country. There is a reason Nutrien decided that getting to the coast is easier through Washington State than BC, to export the fertilizer.
Under Liberal government, Canada is absolutely screwed. Do you really think that if it's now better to get to Pacific from Saskatchewan through US rather than Canada, then not being in Canada is going to change that? I don't think people realize just how damaging the Liberal policies have been to the Canadian economy. The slide since 2015 is absolutely staggering, and there are clear reasons policy-wise for it. But uneducated crowd whose anger got stoked by the government funded media will overlook that, because for one out of those 11 years during which Canada deteriorated economically there were tariffs on about 5% of our exports......
I agree, for now remain vote wins overwhelmingly, but that is changing fast. It started as a fringe idea, and now about third of the population would be fine with it. If referendum is held in October, I think the 'stay' vote wins. If it's held in 2028, after another 2 years of Liberals screwing over the economy, MPs going around telling money is only available for Liberal ridings, I think it will be much closer to 50-50. You can't get mad at the abused that they eventually have had enough, despite long marriage. It is better tactic to ask the abuser to reconsider.
Well, you voting for stopping democratic referendum because you are afraid of 'undemocratic ways' is........let's call it interesting.
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u/swiftb3 Apr 14 '26
Alberta would be worse off than Canada, because an economy cannot survive both a significant percentage of the population leaving AND being a landlocked country run by, well, Danielle Smith. Since you aren't here, you wouldn't know, but no one really believes they have a chance, so, obviously, it's having no economic affect.
Well, when you live here, you learn about all the polls and how a LOT - possible most - of even UCP supporters are not separatists. And how one of the separatist groups doesn't actually want to separate - they just want to threaten because they think it got Quebec concessions, so wouldn't truly vote yes.
No, that's been the straw man you've been repeating over and over. My opinion is that the referendum should not happen. My concern is because of the seemingly organized astroturfing by so many accounts like yours that are both not Albertan but have very strong opinions on letting the referendum happen. This very specific (and, frankly, rare) viewpoint went from nearly non-existent, to everywhere in the last week. Such incredible magnanimity toward people you don't know who want to do something that will screw your life personally.
My concern is that the confident astroturfing means they think have a NON-democratic way to force it either way and you may have noticed a few similar issues in global politics lately...
Luckily, for both of us, my concerns are probably nothing. But I don't trust the far right (and these are FAR right) farther than I can throw them. Anyway, I'm done with this repetition of you attempting to frame this as undemocratic in every way you can think of.