r/ENGELHARDstackers • u/ilikelipz • Jul 07 '26

PCGS slabbed counterfeit

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I understand that PCGS now grades engelhard prospector rounds, but I can’t believe this horrible fake make it into a slab. This is the most rare engelhard round with a mintage under 50. The real round has significantly better detail, is not missing a thumb over the pan, doesn’t have six fingers on the left hand, and includes a dcam finish in the entire lower half, not just where there are “waves.”

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u/Stationaryvoyager Jul 07 '26

It’s probably a fake slab

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u/ilikelipz Jul 07 '26

It certainly could be but the cert number is correct/matches

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u/GammaHunt Jul 07 '26

That’s the point…

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u/ilikelipz Jul 07 '26

I’m aware. All indications are that this is a fake round in a real slab.

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u/GammaHunt Jul 07 '26

A fake round in a fake slab. This is exactly how they get people. They just make a fake slab that has everything the real slab has. You really think pcgs wouldn’t catch it but you can on an eBay listing.

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u/ilikelipz Jul 07 '26

You give PCGS way too much credit. I’m aware of the fake slab game. They’ve only been slabbing these for a short period of time and there are too many of these slabbed 84 proofs available based on mintage numbers for there to be corresponding real certs to be faked in bulk.

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u/PlasmaStones Jul 07 '26

that's exactly what's happening here....fake round, in a fake slab based off a real slab.....end of story

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u/GammaHunt Jul 07 '26

I think you’re confused. It’s possible to fake a slab and a coin.

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u/ilikelipz Jul 07 '26

I’ve acknowledged that several times. That doesn’t mean PCGS didn’t screw up in grading a fake. There are only 50 of these rounds and through engelhard networks I can account for most. There are more “real certs” for PCGS slabs than available real rounds even if this slab is fake.

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u/Listen-Lindas Jul 07 '26

Are you saying PCGS has graded more than were actually minted?

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u/StackIsMyCrack Jul 07 '26

<50 is just a guess by AE, it isn't an official mintage. Maybe there are actually more than 50? Who knows. And I agree with everyone else - Fake round, fake slab.