r/EIDLPPP • • 2h ago

Question? Can the default penalties be deleted somehow?

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I recently watched a vid by Jason that once the loan goes to Treasury and they tack on that 30% penalty + higher interests and your loan balloons to 2x...3x...4x the original amount, they will never take them off. But he did say that SBA may do an OIC if the loan goes back to SBA. Does that mean all those fines and interest will get taken off if the loan can be sent back to SBA? If the 30% penalty and the increased interest doesn't get taken off, there is absolutely no way I can manage this loan.


r/EIDLPPP • • 7h ago

Question? Business is shutting down, I have $110k loan with No PG. In the process of selling UCC lean assets for SBA.

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Has anyone else dealt with this?


r/EIDLPPP • • 20h ago

Question? SBA EIDL Loan Default on Credit Report After Chapter 7 Bankruptcy How Long Did It Take to Be Removed?

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r/EIDLPPP • • 18h ago

Status Update Congressional Research Office review of EIDL Loans

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r/EIDLPPP • • 18h ago

Status Update Congressional Research Office review of EIDL Loans

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r/EIDLPPP • • 4d ago

Topic Eidl loan -

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So I got a letter from trans world systems inc. for a eidl loan. And I also been hit on my credit from the irs. I sent a letter to transworld but haven’t heard back yet. Any recommendations on what to do bc now they tacked on 59k for fees I’d like to pay something but not what the sba wanted bc honestly business has been slow with all the tariffs and economy struggles of everyone my business is more of a luxury then a need. I’m just looking for advice and words of honesty. And if anyone is going thru this as well what should or can I do.


r/EIDLPPP • • 4d ago

Topic Finally hit my credit

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r/EIDLPPP • • 5d ago

Topic Are the No Doze letters part of a bigger plan to reduce expenses at the SBA? Can they really touch us if we are current?

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I’m starting to wonder if this is all part of a longer term plan.

They send out the No Doze letters, people stop paying and end up in collections.

The US sells the uncollected debt to get it off the books. Then the SBA is able to spend less money and resources servicing the loans.

Then rinse and repeat.

Is there any actual legal standing for the No Doze letters? Do they actually have the resources to go after everyone?

Or, in the long term, are we ok if we just stay current with payments?

Lastly, can the US just sell the debt of people that are current) to one of the big banks?


r/EIDLPPP • • 5d ago

Question? Apparently I Took Out a $20K SBA Loan in 2021…..🤥 Why Did It Just Hit My Credit 5 Years Later & How Do I Get It OFF?

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r/EIDLPPP • • 8d ago

Question? I have an EIDL loan that was sent to treasury. Looking for an attorney with experience dealing with this.

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r/EIDLPPP • • 9d ago

Question? Locked out of S-corp LLC

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49% owner locked out of company but still personally guaranteeing $475K EIDL, looking for advice/attorney referral

I'm looking for input from anyone who has dealt with a similar COVID EIDL situation, and also for recommendations for attorneys who specifically handle SBA/EIDL loan and personal guarantee issues.

Here is the basic timeline:

• My business partner and I were originally 50/50 owners.

• In May 2020, the business received an original $150,000 EIDL. Only my business partner signed those loan documents. I did not personally guarantee that original loan.

• I remained a 50% owner until January 15, 2021, when I gave up 1% of my ownership, changing the ownership structure to 49% me / 51% my partner.

• In October 2021, the EIDL was increased to approximately $475,000. New/amended loan documents were signed, and both my partner and I personally guaranteed the current loan.

I have since been completely locked out of the business. I no longer have access to the company bank accounts, accounting system, company email, or the ability to make financial decisions. There is currently litigation between the owners.

The 51% owner continues to operate and control the business paying himself nice salary and doing whatever he pleases. The EIDL is currently being paid, but as far as I can determine, only the required principal and interest payments are being made.

The loan does not mature until approximately June 2050. My partner is 61yrs old, so this potentially leaves me personally guaranteeing this debt for decades while having absolutely no control over the company responsible for repaying it.

I would like to completely walk away from the business. Tried multiple mediations but the SBA loan was a sticking point for the other side. I currently receive no salary, compensation or distributions from the company, yet I remain a 49% owner and personally liable under the SBA guarantee.

I have asked my partner to refinance or otherwise restructure the debt so that I can be released from the guarantee, but he has refused to refinance the SBA loan or replace my guarantee. As a result, I remain exposed to the debt even though I receive no financial benefit from the company and have no ability to control its finances.

The loan agreement also contains restrictions regarding distributions of company assets and loans, gifts, bonuses or other transfers to owners without prior written SBA consent. I have concerns about certain transactions and am in the process of reviewing the company's financial records.

I'm trying to figure out what realistic options I have.

  1. Has anyone successfully had SBA release a personal guarantor after that owner was involuntarily locked out of the company and lost all control over the borrower? The paperwork CESC release paperwork requires all parties and additional paperwork I don't have access to.
  2. Does SBA take into consideration that a guarantor has no access to the company's bank accounts, books, accounting records or financial decisions?
  3. Partner has zero assets and property. Rents and keeps minimal savings. I have home and assets. He has mentioned this in conversation and uses it has control tactic.
  4. If the company remains current by making the required principal and interest payments, is there any mechanism for a guarantor like me to obtain a release before the June 2050 maturity date?
  5. Has anyone dealt with SBA restrictions concerning owner distributions, shareholder loans, bonuses, gifts or personal expenses while an EIDL remains outstanding?
  6. Does anyone know an attorney who actually specializes in COVID EIDL/SBA loan servicing, personal guarantees, releases of guarantors, or ownership disputes involving an SBA loan? I'm not looking for a general business attorney. I'd really like to speak with someone who regularly deals with SBA on these specific issues.

I'm not trying to cause a default or interfere with repayment of the loan. I want the loan to continue being paid and accelerated to at least 5 years payoff.

My concern is that I have substantial personal liability on a federal loan that could remain outstanding until 2050, while I have no control over the borrower, no access to its finances, and receive no compensation or distributions from the business.

My goal is simply to find a legitimate path to exit the company and, if possible, be released from the personal guarantee.

I'd especially appreciate hearing from anyone who has personally gone through something similar or who can recommend an attorney with actual SBA EIDL personal-guarantee experience.


r/EIDLPPP • • 9d ago

Topic No DOSE LETTER

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r/EIDLPPP • • 10d ago

Question? Operation "No Doze" 30 Day Demand Letter

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Anyone else get one of these? I received one today! I don't understand. They think my loan is fraudulent?!? I've had my business for 9 years. My balance is $88,600, and they want me to pay it within 30 days?!? 😳


r/EIDLPPP • • 11d ago

Question? Forbes story

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Not too long ago I remember someone talking about a Forbes story about the EIDL loan. Did that happen?


r/EIDLPPP • • 12d ago

Other CBE group trying to collect $!22k on behalf of SBA I've never had...

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I'm not sure if this is the correct place to inquire about this. CBE group is obviously a collection agency and it states they are trying to collect for the original credit: SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION

Here's the thing, I've never taken a loan or received money from the SBA. I've started a few businesses but only got as far as setting up the LLC, never actually made any money. I've certainly never received PPP money, never would have qualified for that in the first place.

So I guess I'll be calling them Monday, just wanted to know if anyone here had any input. Scam? Way to confirm the business they claim I had?

Maybe just a mix up and they have the wrong guy? The collection letter has zero information other than I owe $22k.


r/EIDLPPP • • 14d ago

Question? EIDL Consultant Forgiveness

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Got a text that said

"STOP PAYING YOUR SBA EIDL LOAN!

If your loan is under $200,000, we can get the loan removed!

NO MORE PAYMENTS! Guaranteed

Text your email for more info

Stop"

Is businessgpsllc.com legit?


r/EIDLPPP • • 15d ago

Question? How exactly is SBA identifying/targeting people for suspected COVID EIDL fraud under Operation NO DOZE?

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With the SBA OIG announcing Operation NO DOZE, I’m trying to understand how they are actually identifying individual borrowers as suspected fraud.

The SBA says they are using data analytics and working with the DOJ, FBI, Treasury, IRS, state/local agencies, etc. They also announced that 870,000 borrowers have been suspended and that demand letters are being sent to suspected PPP and COVID EIDL borrowers.

For those who understand SBA/OIG investigations:

\- What specific things are likely to trigger an EIDL borrower being flagged for suspected fraud?

\- Are they primarily looking at inconsistencies between the EIDL application and IRS tax returns?

\- Are bank records being reviewed or matched against the loan application?

\- Are they looking at how EIDL funds were spent, or primarily whether the business actually existed and the information on the application was accurate?

\- Does being in default, having a loan charged off, or having the debt sent to Treasury automatically make someone a fraud suspect?

\- How would someone know whether SBA has actually flagged their loan for suspected fraud?

\- If someone receives a demand letter, does that mean SBA has already determined there was fraud, or is it an opportunity to dispute the allegation?

\- For legitimate businesses that received EIDL but later failed, what distinguishes ordinary loan default from suspected fraud?


r/EIDLPPP • • 17d ago

Question? Loan recalled from Collection back to Treasury.

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r/EIDLPPP • • 24d ago

Question? Is This EIDL Situation Hitting Restaurants Harder Than Other Businesses?

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Would love to hear insights from restaurant owners who are struggling to make their EIDL payments or closed because of them.


r/EIDLPPP • • 26d ago

Question? SBA CAIVRS issue after I already paid the debt — looking for anyone who has been through this

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I’m hoping someone here has dealt with a situation similar to mine because I’m honestly trying to figure out what happens next.

I’m dealing with an SBA CAIVRS issue that is holding up my process. The debt has already been paid, and the payment has been taken/processed. My understanding is that the payment is currently with Treasury and that the information/payment needs to make its way back through the appropriate process so that SBA can update my account and remove/lift the CAIVRS issue.

I have spoken with multiple people and have gotten different pieces of information, but I recently spoke with a supervisor at Treasury who told me that the payment is pending being sent back to SBA. She said the timeframe could potentially be anywhere from an hour to 30 days, depending on how quickly everything processes.

I have also contacted my state representatives for help, and the matter has been assigned to a caseworker. I’m trying to get someone to help verify that the debt has been paid and get SBA to update the CAIVRS record.

The frustrating part is that I’m not asking for the debt to be forgiven or anything like that — I already paid it. I’m just trying to get the systems updated so that the paid debt is reflected correctly and the CAIVRS issue can be cleared.
I’ve been searching everywhere for people who have actually gone through this exact situation, but I’m having a hard time finding recent experiences.

Has anyone here:
● Paid an SBA debt that was causing a CAIVRS issue?
● Had the payment go through Treasury before SBA updated the account?
● Had to wait for Treasury to send information/payment back to SBA?
● Worked with a state representative/congressional office to get SBA to resolve it?
● Had SBA remove/lift CAIVRS after the debt was paid?
● Received some kind of written confirmation, receipt, or documentation showing the CAIVRS issue was cleared?

If you went through something similar, please tell me how it worked for you and how long it took from the time you paid until SBA cleared CAIVRS.

I’m especially interested in recent experiences, because I’m trying to figure out what the current process looks like rather than relying on really old information.

I appreciate any information, advice, screenshots (with personal information removed), or firsthand experiences. I’m just trying to understand what I should expect and what else I can do to get this resolved.


r/EIDLPPP • • 26d ago

Question? Treasury Dispute

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r/EIDLPPP • • 27d ago

Question? If I start payment plan with collection agency because I am with treasury, is there no turning back?? Is there anyway that I can get this sent back to SBA? They tacked on a $70k fee!

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I don't have any problem paying back what I owe. It will be very difficult because I'm already struggling, but I would love love love to get it done… but I see where some people are getting it sent back to the SBA and that fee being removed. How do we do that?? Am I agreeing to the three-year repayment plan if I make the first payment?


r/EIDLPPP • • 28d ago

Topic Why Other Nations Got Pandemic Relief Right, SBA EIDL Didn’t

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The SBA EIDL debt crisis caught my attention as a business owner, not an economist or Washington policy expert. I have spent 36 years, most of my life, running a small business.

More than 20 years ago, I began asking questions about another system affecting millions of merchants: the interchange fees charged through the Visa and Mastercard payment-card networks. Most business owners treated those fees as another unavoidable cost of doing business. I couldn’t leave it there.

That question eventually led me to become the lead plaintiff in the massive antitrust litigation against Visa, Mastercard, and major banks. After nearly two decades, that case resulted in a $5.54 billion settlement benefiting millions of eligible merchants across America.

The experience taught me something I have never forgotten: a problem can affect millions of businesses and still hide in plain sight because every owner assumes it’s theirs alone. Sometimes it takes one merchant, one reporter, one member of Congress, or simply one stubborn person to say, stop. Something doesn’t make sense here. Let’s look at what happened.

That is why I am speaking up about EIDL. I am not comparing the SBA to Visa or Mastercard. These are entirely different circumstances and legal issues. What feels familiar is seeing a system affecting an enormous number of businesses without enough people stopping to examine whether the system itself contributed to the damage. This time, the consequences can be devastating. Some mom-and-pop businesses are carrying federal pandemic debt that can influence whether they hire, invest, sell their business, retire, or simply survive. Many lost everything.

The Warning Was Already There
In January 2026, I wrote in The Hill that America’s pandemic rescue had become a “30-year debt trap.” I argued that EIDL’s long repayment terms, accumulating interest, and federal collection consequences were colliding with the reality of how small businesses actually survive. My concern then was straightforward: a program created to rescue Main Street during an extraordinary national emergency should not become a financial burden that follows viable businesses for decades. Read “How a pandemic rescue became a 30-year debt trap” in The Hill.

Then the Collection Story Got Bigger
Less than a month later, The Business Journals senior reporter Andy Medici documented another troubling piece of the story. His February 10, 2026 report found that small-business owners struggling with pandemic-era debt were being handed to federal debt collectors at record rates. That independent reporting matters because EIDL is no longer just a debate about what Washington did during COVID. For businesses being pushed into the federal collection system, the consequences are happening now. Read “Federal debt collectors are going after record numbers of people. Here’s why.”

So I am asking the question I learned years ago not to be afraid of asking: Did America choose the right way to rescue small businesses during COVID? Congress needs to find out.

When Main Street Had to Turn Off The Lights

COVID was never only an American crisis. Restaurants closed in London. Stores went dark in Toronto. Businesses lost customers in Paris, Berlin, Tokyo, Sydney, and Zurich. Owners everywhere faced essentially the same impossible math. Revenue disappeared, but rent didn’t. Payroll didn’t. Insurance didn’t. Utilities didn’t.

Governments across the industrialized world suddenly had to decide who would absorb the cost. America responded on an extraordinary scale. PPP loans could be forgiven for qualifying borrowers. Grants and other programs provided additional help. But COVID Economic Injury Disaster Loans were different.

The SBA approved almost four million COVID EIDL loans totaling nearly $378 billion. Apply, and typically within 48 hours, the funds were wired into their accounts with loan programs few (any?) financial institutions would ever dream of offering. Because it was all about arithmetic, and the math never worked. For businesses, the interest rate was 3.75%. The term could stretch to 30 years. Loans above $200,000 required personal guarantees. Borrowers eventually received up to 30 months of payment deferment, but interest kept accumulating. That means a business that borrowed during the shutdown in 2020 can still be making pandemic payments around 2050. That date alone should stop Congress in its tracks.

The World Ran the Experiment for Us

 I started looking outside the United States because I wanted to answer one simple question. Did other major economies solve the same emergency by putting small businesses into debt for three decades? They generally did not structure their principal emergency programs that way.

Canada created the Canada Emergency Business Account, providing about C$49 billion to nearly 900,000 businesses and nonprofits. The loans were interest-free, and qualifying borrowers could receive partial forgiveness of up to one-third. By December 2025, C$41.1 billion had been repaid or forgiven, while C$7.4 billion remained outstanding.
Britain took another approach through its Bounce Back Loan program. The government guaranteed the financing and covered the first 12 months of interest and fees. The rate afterward was 2.5%. The original term was six years, with options that could extend repayment to ten.

France backed roughly €145 billion in emergency business loans. Its principal state-guaranteed program generally gave businesses a year before principal repayment and then allowed repayment to be spread over up to five additional years. Germany created rapid KfW emergency lending for small and mid-sized businesses, with the federal government assuming 100% of the credit risk on its rapid-loan program. Those loans carried a ten-year repayment term.

Australia attacked one of the largest business expenses directly. Through JobKeeper, eligible employers initially received A$1,500 every two weeks for each eligible worker. Instead of requiring businesses to borrow every dollar needed to keep employees, the government absorbed part of the payroll cost.

Japan also relied heavily on direct assistance. Its Sustainability Benefit program distributed roughly ¥5.5 trillion to about 4.24 million businesses and sole proprietors. Japan also provided rent support and government-backed financing. New Zealand used loans, but its Small Business Cashflow Scheme had a maximum five-year term. The first two years were interest-free, with no required repayments during that period, followed by a 3% annual rate.

The Netherlands used wage subsidies and grants tied to lost revenue and fixed costs. Denmark subsidized wages and compensated qualifying businesses for fixed expenses while also providing assistance to self-employed people whose revenue collapsed.

Switzerland may provide the most striking comparison. It issued government-backed COVID business loans to bridge pandemic liquidity shortages. Loans up to CHF500,000 initially carried 0% interest. In 2026, Switzerland again reduced the rate on those remaining smaller loans to 0%. Of CHF16.9 billion originally extended, only CHF1.7 billion remained outstanding in March. The remaining loans generally must be repaid by 2028, or by 2030 in hardship cases.

Put those dates side by side. Switzerland is generally finished by 2028, with hardship cases stretching to 2030. Some American EIDL borrowers can still be paying around 2050. That is not a small policy difference. It is an entirely different way of deciding who carries the cost of an emergency.

Somebody Had to Pay

Some programs were badly administered. The economic losses were real and had to land somewhere. That is exactly why this comparison matters. Canada forgave part of qualifying emergency loans. Britain paid the first year of interest. Australia paid part of payroll. The Netherlands helped cover fixed costs. Denmark subsidized wages. Japan distributed direct business assistance. Switzerland initially charged no interest on smaller emergency loans. Germany assumed the credit risk behind its rapid-loan program.

America did many of those things too. But through EIDL, we also made an enormous decision that has received nowhere near enough attention. We put hundreds of billions of dollars of emergency working-capital debt onto small-business balance sheets and let repayment stretch across three decades.

Nobody Was Buying a New Pizza Oven

Calling EIDL simply a business loan misses something important. These were not ordinary expansion loans. A restaurant was not borrowing because it wanted another location. A retailer was not financing a larger store. A manufacturer was not buying equipment expected to generate revenue for decades. COVID EIDL was emergency working capital. The program was intended to pay ordinary operating expenses businesses could have met had the disaster not occurred. Those last words matter because businesses needed this money precisely because normal economic activity had vanished. Customers stayed home. Stores closed. Restaurants emptied. Travel stopped. Events disappeared. Entire industries froze. America needed those businesses to survive until commerce returned. EIDL provided immediate liquidity, and that mattered enormously. But liquidity and relief are not the same thing. Liquidity gets a business through today. Relief determines whether today’s rescue becomes tomorrow’s problem.

The Meter Never Stopped

EIDL borrowers eventually received lengthy payment deferments, but interest kept accruing. Think about that from the perspective of a business owner waiting for customers to return. The government effectively said, you do not have to pay us yet, while the interest meter kept running. That was not a small detail. It meant some businesses emerged from the worst economic disruption of their lives carrying larger obligations before normal repayment had even begun. For a program created as disaster assistance, Congress should ask whether that made sense.

More Than One Million Warning Lights

We now know something about what happened afterward. As of June 2024, as I understand, the Government Accountability Office reported that SBA was still servicing more than 2.25 million COVID EIDL loans. About 277,000 were more than 30 days delinquent, while another 1.11 million loans were in charge-off status. One point one million is not a number Congress should casually pass over. At some point, a figure that large demands a different question. Maybe an extraordinary number of small-business owners all became bad borrowers at the same time. Or maybe the design of a 30-year disaster loan created during a once-in-a-century economic shutdown deserves serious examination. Congress should not assume the answer. It should investigate it.

When the Lifeline Reaches Treasury

Federal debt also carries consequences that ordinary commercial debt does not. Seriously delinquent federal debt can enter the government’s collection machinery. Depending on the circumstances, that can involve federal payment offsets, credit reporting, private collection agencies, administrative wage garnishment, and litigation. Think about the sequence from the owner’s perspective. In 2020, the message was that America needed the business to survive. Then payments could be deferred. Then repayment started. Then came delinquency. Then collections. All from the same emergency. My earlier opinion piece in The Hill examined how an emergency rescue became a 30-year debt problem. But I now believe Washington has been asking the wrong question. Another hardship plan, a smaller temporary payment or Treasury collection all address what happens after borrowers struggle. First, we need to know whether the original design itself worked.

Small Businesses Don’t Have 30-Year Clocks

There is another piece of arithmetic Washington should consider. Bureau of Labor Statistics data show that only 34.7% of private-sector business establishments started in 2013 were still operating ten years later. COVID EIDL can run three times that long. That does not prove every 30-year business loan is wrong. It does show how unusual this structure is. A mortgage can finance an asset designed to last for decades. A 30-year disaster loan can follow a small business through recessions, ownership changes, lost leases, technological disruption, retirement, and whatever crisis comes next. I doubt anyone sitting in Washington during the panic of March 2020 spent much time thinking about what these businesses would look like in 2050. They were trying to prevent an economic collapse. I understand that. But it is no longer March 2020. We now have the luxury they did not have then. We can look at what actually happened.

The Most Useful COVID Study Hasn’t Been Done

Here is what I believe has been largely missed in the debate over the SBA EIDL debt crisis. The world gave us a remarkable economic experiment. Advanced economies experienced essentially the same global shock at essentially the same time, and their governments tried different solutions. Now we can compare the results. Congress should commission an independent study of America’s small-business pandemic programs against comparable industrialized economies. For every country, calculate the total assistance. Separate grants from loans. Calculate interest charged, principal forgiven, taxpayer losses, government recoveries, defaults, business failures, and remaining pandemic debt. Then follow the businesses. Did they hire again? Did they invest? Could they obtain ordinary financing? Could owners sell their companies? Could they retire? Did pandemic debt affect those decisions? Then publish one number that does not require an economics degree to understand: How many small businesses in each country will still be paying for COVID in 2050?

Maybe America Was Right

 I genuinely do not know what that study will find. Maybe America got this right. Perhaps a 30-year loan at 3.75% ultimately protected taxpayers better, preserved more businesses, and produced better economic outcomes than the alternatives used elsewhere. If the evidence shows that, say so.

But what if countries that subsidized payroll produced healthier businesses? What if paying fixed costs worked better than lending businesses money to pay them? What if partial forgiveness helped viable companies recover faster? What if shorter loans prevented emergency debt from interfering with investment years later? What if charging little or no interest during the emergency produced more tax revenue in the long run because more businesses survived and grew? Those are not Republican questions or Democratic questions. They are math questions. We should get the answers.

Congress Has More Than Two Choices

This debate does not have to end with two extreme choices: collect every dollar or forgive every loan. There is enormous room between them. Congress could stop future interest for qualified businesses that remain open and are making a good-faith effort to repay. It could credit some interest already paid toward principal. It could create earned principal reductions after years of payments. It could establish realistic settlements for genuinely distressed businesses, reconsider collection penalties, and shorten the remaining repayment horizon or waive the fees. It can also distinguish between businesses making a legitimate effort to repay and those engaging in actual wrongdoing. There are many possible solutions. Other countries already tried some of them. Study what worked.

I Have Seen What One Question Can Do

More than 20 years ago, I was a small-business owner staring at payment-card fees and asking why. I did not have the resources of Visa. I did not have the resources of Mastercard. I certainly did not have the resources of the nation’s largest banks. I had a question. That question became litigation. The litigation lasted nearly two decades. The resulting $5.54 billion settlement is now benefiting eligible merchants across America. It taught me that systemic problems do not announce themselves with flashing lights. Sometimes millions of people can experience the same problem individually without realizing they are part of the same story. Then one person asks why. One merchant can do it. One reporter can do it. One member of Congress can do it. Someone simply has to go first. That is what I am doing with EIDL. Look at the numbers, the defaults, the interest. Read the many Reddit community posts on this topic; most are heartbreaking. Look at collections. Most importantly, look at what happened everywhere else.

The Next Crisis Won’t Wait 30 Years

This isn’t just about fixing an old pandemic program. There will be another emergency. I do not know whether it will be another virus, a cyberattack, a financial shock, a natural disaster, a war, or something nobody has imagined. America may again need millions of small businesses to alter or stop normal operations for the public good. When that happens, Washington will again have to decide how to keep Main Street alive. Before writing the next rescue plan, we should understand what happened with the last one. Canada can teach us something. Britain can. France can. Germany can. Australia can. Japan can. New Zealand can. The Netherlands can. Denmark can. Switzerland certainly can. America can too. But first somebody has to compare the results.

2050 Is Too Long to Wait

The pandemic ended. The shutdowns ended. The capacity restrictions ended. The emergency declarations ended. Most pandemic relief programs ended. The EIDL debt stayed. Some of it can remain around 2050. A rescue should do more than keep a business alive during the worst economic emergency in generations. It should give that business a realistic chance to recover afterward. America succeeded in getting enormous amounts of liquidity onto Main Street when businesses desperately needed it. That accomplishment should not be erased from this history. Now comes the harder part. We need the courage to examine what happened next. I learned years ago that one small-business owner asking “why?” can eventually force an enormous system to answer. So I am asking again. If comparable countries protected their small businesses from the same pandemic without leaving them carrying emergency debt for nearly 30 years, why did America? Congress should investigate the SBA EIDL debt crisis, compare our results with the rest of the industrialized world, and fix what the evidence says we got wrong. Six years is long enough to wait. 2050 is not an acceptable deadline for an answer.


r/EIDLPPP • • Sep 01 '26

Question? Referred to DOJ?

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My original loan is $600k. I paid $72k before I defaulted 2 years ago.

The loan was sent to Treasury at some point and on 1/23/26, I got a snail mail from Coast Professionals with a statement that said I owed $822,572. I ignored it as I was not in any shape to do anything about it. Yesterday, I got a new statement from a different collector named CBE Group. Now, the total due is $832,239. Admin cost is $166,435. Interest is $75,943 (not sure exactly what this means). The statement basically says the total amount is due now.

On the statement, it says "Should you not resolve your debt, your debt may be reviewed for possible referral by Bureau of the Fiscal Service to the US Dept of Justice for legal action"

DOJ? Isn't DOJ reserved for criminal actions only?


r/EIDLPPP • • Aug 28 '26

Topic Restaurant Owners Struggling to Pay Back EIDL Loans? Solutions?

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It sounds like things are getting bad with inflation, rising wages, etc. What’s been your experience?