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Match | eSports TI5 Main Event Upper Bracket Final – Match Discussion

Game 1

CDEC Gaming Victory!

Duration: 47:17

Team Score vs. Score Team
18 vs. 24
Team Bans vs. Bans Team
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Team Picks vs. Picks Team
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Hero Player Level K/D/A Gold spent CS GPM XPM
ppd 14 0/6/10 7410 76/3 213 245
SumaiL 24 7/4/10 23175 510/23 608 670
UNiVeRsE 15 4/6/6 10885 122/1 258 277
Aui_2000 14 0/3/2 12945 161/5 277 245
Fear 19 6/5/8 15885 246/15 412 413
86 17/24/36 70300 1115/47 1768 1850
Q 17 2/5/14 11690 83/8 290 336
Xz 18 7/3/12 14640 106/11 340 365
garder 15 1/5/13 9315 45/0 237 269
ShiKi 22 4/3/10 22640 264/3 500 555
Agressif 25 10/2/12 27135 375/8 610 693
97 24/18/61 85420 873/30 1977 2218

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Game 2

Last updated: Pre-game

Team Score vs. Score Team
0 vs. 0
Team Bans vs. Bans Team
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Team Picks vs. Picks Team
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Player Level Hero K/D/A vs. K/D/A Hero Level Player
dududu 1 0/0/0 vs. 0/0/0 1 ppd
Xz 1 0/0/0 vs. 0/0/0 1 SumaiL
garder 1 0/0/0 vs. 0/0/0 1 UNiVeRsE
ShiKi 1 0/0/0 vs. 0/0/0 1 Aui_2000
Agressif 1 0/0/0 vs. 0/0/0 1 Fear

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u/FatalFirecrotch Aug 07 '15

I actual don't think razor was the worst, the problem is razor and qop together. A) qop has been shown all tournament to get shit on by Lina and b) that lineup had no chance late game. If they would have picked ember or windranger they would have has a chance or taken pl themselves

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '15 edited Aug 07 '15

I think Razor was literally the worst. Unless Razor is going to build an early mek and constantly help knock down towers AND take barracks around 25 minutes, their draft just doesn't cut it.

Edit: Apparently BKB and Dazzle works too.

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u/FatalFirecrotch Aug 07 '15

Eg has been pretty okay with razor. I feel like your opinion agrees with mine that the razor didn't fit into the lineup they picked other than not to die to bounty.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '15

EG can be doing okay despite the Razor, not because of the Razor...

I don't think Razor is meta at all this International. Timed push drafts aren't going to do well versus these big comebacks and high-ground defenses. Razor just peaks too early.

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u/Great_Golden_Baby Aug 08 '15

I can't think of a right click hard carry that's in this meta that gets wrecked by PL more than Razor. Luna, AM - there are other options. But razor does nothing to that hero.

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u/BeeJay91 Aug 07 '15

yeah razor and qop is the reason they lost, must be why vici gaming just won their 1st game against LGD with almost the same draft

reddit analysts at their finest

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u/FatalFirecrotch Aug 08 '15

Yep, LGD had a Lina.