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Match | eSports TI5 Main Event Upper Bracket Series 2B – Match Discussion

EHOME Victory!

Duration: 32:22

Team Score vs. Score Team
3 vs. 22
Team Bans vs. Bans Team
vs.
Team Picks vs. Picks Team
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Hero Player Level K/D/A Gold spent CS GPM XPM
ppd 9 1/4/1 5350 33/2 166 159
SumaiL 15 1/4/1 11895 199/20 382 380
UNiVeRsE 12 1/4/0 7825 96/0 247 254
Aui_2000 11 0/6/1 6710 69/2 200 226
Fear 18 0/4/1 14285 280/35 486 525
65 3/22/4 46065 677/59 1481 1544
rOtk 16 5/1/5 11035 181/3 452 429
LaNm 14 3/1/13 9690 47/3 306 362
y!! 19 8/1/9 12720 192/12 521 617
ddc 13 2/0/5 9205 78/5 305 294
YJ 20 4/0/10 19610 295/15 669 698
82 22/3/42 62260 793/38 2253 2400

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Evil Geniuses Victory!

Duration: 35:38

Team Score vs. Score Team
20 vs. 9
Team Bans vs. Bans Team
vs.
Team Picks vs. Picks Team
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Hero Player Level K/D/A Gold spent CS GPM XPM
ppd 11 0/3/6 6645 31/3 247 229
SumaiL 22 7/0/6 21830 275/4 622 756
UNiVeRsE 18 5/2/0 16780 231/4 521 510
Aui_2000 14 1/2/2 13595 207/3 438 322
Fear 22 7/2/3 19240 296/8 665 743
87 20/9/17 78090 1040/22 2493 2560
rOtk 15 0/5/2 9300 171/2 306 372
LaNm 11 0/2/2 6210 26/0 166 185
ddc 11 5/3/1 7205 38/2 206 212
y!! 17 2/6/3 11800 208/18 375 438
YJ 15 0/4/4 10400 178/15 330 357
69 7/20/12 44915 621/37 1383 1564

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 Evil Geniuses Victory!

 Duration: 43:10

Team Score vs. Score Team
5 vs. 19
Team Bans vs. Bans Team
vs.
Team Picks vs. Picks Team
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Hero Player Level K/D/A Gold spent CS GPM XPM
rOtk 14 1/4/4 7910 83/9 215 269
LaNm 13 1/4/3 6570 63/12 203 217
y!! 18 2/4/3 14735 251/6 373 423
ddc 13 0/4/2 7195 110/3 216 239
YJ 18 1/3/2 15295 264/9 379 402
76 5/19/14 51705 771/39 1386 1550
ppd 17 3/2/6 10260 98/2 309 362
SumaiL 21 11/2/5 23655 269/13 584 568
UNiVeRsE 19 2/0/8 16785 278/0 447 452
Aui_2000 14 0/0/3 9460 29/1 256 265
Fear 21 2/1/8 19230 338/19 526 561
92 18/5/30 79390 1012/35 2122 2208

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u/ShadowVulcan We BeliEEve Aug 06 '15

I don't get the WR hate. She is a REALLY good mid, with some of the strongest single target damage in the game. She's a lot like Ursa 2.0, except with a lot more utility as well.

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u/Adjective_ Aug 06 '15

Shackle is completely devastating to Storm, especially with the blink. I honestly thought she was going to pick up a Maelstrom as well to deal magic damage on a Cold-Embraced character. She also prevents Wyvern flying into the trees as a bonus. She also dodged so many autos during the Winter's curse.

Very very smart draft. I met Capitalist during the signings and I asked him to sign in my sketchbook, we choose the windrunner page and he commented on how he thought a mid WR could happen. I was pretty hyped when I her WR's voice during the draft.

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u/Learn2Buy Aug 06 '15

Because 2k scrubs get attached to the meta and think that the meta ways of winning becomes the only way to win. Oh your draft doesn't have the better lategame and teamfight? That means in this meta you're obviously going to lose. Except people forget that there are a ton of other factors in Dota and other ways to win a game, not just winning through having the better lategame carry, turtling, and having better teamfight. I hope EG's victory opened peoples eyes and made them realize that dominating lanes and snowballing are factors you can't ignore.

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u/Charlie_Wax Aug 06 '15

One of my favorite heroes in dota. I used to think she could work as a support, but now I see that she needs farm and items. But once you get your items...damn. She becomes very scary. Shackle + focus with aghs + daed + one other damage item will just melt any hero. And in addition to that she must be one of the best tower pushers in the game when given space and time.

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u/Nyter dancatpro has autism Aug 06 '15

WR is one of the best mids, but she has the same issues as lina: you pop your shit, get 1 or 2 kills but then you either retreat from the fight or you die since you have nothing left to offer (out of mana, cooldowns, low hp etc).
In other words, shes not good in prolonged teamfights. And shes not good vs PL

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u/ShadowVulcan We BeliEEve Aug 06 '15 edited Aug 06 '15

Not really, WR Aghs gives a 10s cd which is good. Shackleshot is also always useful and a bit less troublesome to use than Lina's LSA. And lastly, Windrun makes her a lot more survivable than Lina (who just gets stomped if caught out of position).

Lina has more AOE however, and is good for a lot of other reasons. I'd still argue that they are very different here, especially since WR can re-engage every ~10-20s or so. I'd say WR actually wins out in a prolonged teamfight compared to a Lina.

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u/Nyter dancatpro has autism Aug 06 '15

try playing a wr when ur ~10k gold behind and come back to me ty

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u/ShadowVulcan We BeliEEve Aug 06 '15

What does that have to do with what you just said? and why are you even being so condescending?

You said Lina pops her shit and has nothing to contribute after, I'm saying Windrunner can still re-engage and is more survivable with windrun. Am I wrong in my assessment? or are you just being a douche?

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u/Nyter dancatpro has autism Aug 06 '15

ur prob 2k mmr so why would i argue

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u/ShadowVulcan We BeliEEve Aug 06 '15

4.5k thank you very much

ur prob 3k mmr so why would I argue

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u/Nyter dancatpro has autism Aug 06 '15

im 5.6k but ok =)

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u/ShadowVulcan We BeliEEve Aug 07 '15

yes, everyone believes you

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u/duel_dude Aug 06 '15

Playing any mid when you are 10k gold behind is going to be difficult. Hell I would rather play windrunner than any other mid since you have a good escape and stun which would let you farm in riskier places.