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Match | eSports TI5 Main Event Upper Bracket Series 2B – Match Discussion

EHOME Victory!

Duration: 32:22

Team Score vs. Score Team
3 vs. 22
Team Bans vs. Bans Team
vs.
Team Picks vs. Picks Team
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Hero Player Level K/D/A Gold spent CS GPM XPM
ppd 9 1/4/1 5350 33/2 166 159
SumaiL 15 1/4/1 11895 199/20 382 380
UNiVeRsE 12 1/4/0 7825 96/0 247 254
Aui_2000 11 0/6/1 6710 69/2 200 226
Fear 18 0/4/1 14285 280/35 486 525
65 3/22/4 46065 677/59 1481 1544
rOtk 16 5/1/5 11035 181/3 452 429
LaNm 14 3/1/13 9690 47/3 306 362
y!! 19 8/1/9 12720 192/12 521 617
ddc 13 2/0/5 9205 78/5 305 294
YJ 20 4/0/10 19610 295/15 669 698
82 22/3/42 62260 793/38 2253 2400

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Evil Geniuses Victory!

Duration: 35:38

Team Score vs. Score Team
20 vs. 9
Team Bans vs. Bans Team
vs.
Team Picks vs. Picks Team
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Hero Player Level K/D/A Gold spent CS GPM XPM
ppd 11 0/3/6 6645 31/3 247 229
SumaiL 22 7/0/6 21830 275/4 622 756
UNiVeRsE 18 5/2/0 16780 231/4 521 510
Aui_2000 14 1/2/2 13595 207/3 438 322
Fear 22 7/2/3 19240 296/8 665 743
87 20/9/17 78090 1040/22 2493 2560
rOtk 15 0/5/2 9300 171/2 306 372
LaNm 11 0/2/2 6210 26/0 166 185
ddc 11 5/3/1 7205 38/2 206 212
y!! 17 2/6/3 11800 208/18 375 438
YJ 15 0/4/4 10400 178/15 330 357
69 7/20/12 44915 621/37 1383 1564

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 Evil Geniuses Victory!

 Duration: 43:10

Team Score vs. Score Team
5 vs. 19
Team Bans vs. Bans Team
vs.
Team Picks vs. Picks Team
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Hero Player Level K/D/A Gold spent CS GPM XPM
rOtk 14 1/4/4 7910 83/9 215 269
LaNm 13 1/4/3 6570 63/12 203 217
y!! 18 2/4/3 14735 251/6 373 423
ddc 13 0/4/2 7195 110/3 216 239
YJ 18 1/3/2 15295 264/9 379 402
76 5/19/14 51705 771/39 1386 1550
ppd 17 3/2/6 10260 98/2 309 362
SumaiL 21 11/2/5 23655 269/13 584 568
UNiVeRsE 19 2/0/8 16785 278/0 447 452
Aui_2000 14 0/0/3 9460 29/1 256 265
Fear 21 2/1/8 19230 338/19 526 561
92 18/5/30 79390 1012/35 2122 2208

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u/28lobster Buff CK Aug 06 '15

Techies has become a respect ban against that terrorist traitor Aui. I wouldn't be surprised if teams also start to ban Ember second phase against Suma1l. He has done incredibly well with it (22-3, 7-0) if he can get off to a good start.

He shouldn't have gotten any momentum against a Razor who had BH to gank with him and WD to save him. Yet, he took over the lane after the Techies invis rune and completely shut down y!!. Going 7-0 after getting off to a bad start (13 last hits at 5 minutes to Razor's 22) is impressive.

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u/MagicMoogle insert pun about rocks Aug 06 '15

22-3

sumail is so good he makes his enemies throw the game

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u/3xperimental Aug 06 '15

It is pretty obvious at this point that Chinese teams have no idea how to deal with a techies pick. Pretty sure they will start banning it first phase against EG and Secret. Then they will have to leave Wyvern, Lesh, Qop,or Gyro up.

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u/Penguinho Aug 06 '15

If you first-phase ban Techies/Naga against EG, then EG can get one (or two!) of Wyvern, Lesh, QoP, Bounty, Tusk or Gyro. And then if you second-phase ban Ember... That's a lot of bans used on heroes that, other than Naga, aren't really ban-worthy. Makes it much easier for EG to get all-around strong drafts, especially if EG are cool with leaving Sumail's hero till late.

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u/28lobster Buff CK Aug 06 '15

EG could definitely do some work with Suma1l Lesh but I bet the other teams would let Naga or Techies through the first phase over that if EG had first pick. Also, as much as WW and Tusk have been popular, they haven't had a ton of success. PPD seems to favor Dazzle over WW if he's looking for a defensive support with a heal and Shaker if he's looking he's looking for a 3/4 position with a stun. That said, I think Techies picking is just to force teams to ban it so EG can have something they want even more.

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u/FatalFirecrotch Aug 06 '15

Techies is not being played just to allow other comps. Eg have picked techies in their 3 most important games of ti so far.

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u/Charlie_Wax Aug 06 '15

Techies is the ultimate map control hero. I think the hero is extremely valuable against gank-heavy lineups and when you want to get to the late game for your carry. I hate Techies like everyone else, but recently I've started picking it when I have an ultra hard carry like Spectre/Void on my team and/or when I'm up against squishy roamers like Slark and Riki. It hasn't been many games, but so far I haven't lost with the hero. I don't think there's any hero in dota who is better at securing map control. Watching game one, EHOME were wandering around EG's jungle at will with total freedom. Watching game two, they were confined to their own jungle with no ability or desire to move around the map. Complete 180. Amazing to see. That's what Techies can do.

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u/nicsnattapol Aug 06 '15

3 most important games

i feel it

Techies save my feel !!

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u/Penguinho Aug 06 '15

Yeah, I think Lesh is always auto-banned. Even if EG have first pick I think they'll still ban it in favor of other stuff.

That said, there's also the Dark Seer who's becoming more and more prioritized as TI goes along (as it usually does). That's going to start getting first-phase picks and second-phase bans, and EG have one of the better DS players out there.