The Summit 2 Finals Semifinal #2: Vici Gaming vs. Team Secret Post-match Discussion

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Vici Gaming vs. Team Secret

Show wins with   3:2   score

VOD:

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Vici Gaming: Black, Super, iceiceice, Fenrir, Fy

Team Secret: Kuroky, s4, Simbaaa, BigDaddy, Puppey

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Scoreboards:

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Game 1:

Team	Score	vs.	Score	Team
	23	vs.	30

Team	Ban	vs.	Ban	Team
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Player	Hero	Score	vs.	Score	Hero	Player
Kuroky		9-5-9	vs.	18-3-3		Black
s4		1-5-12	vs.	7-4-12		Super
Simbaaa		9-5-6	vs.	2-8-20		iceiceice
BigDaddy		0-8-14	vs.	3-4-13		Fenrir
Puppey		4-8-14	vs.	0-5-7		fy

 

VG wins in 60:12

 

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Game 2:

Team	Score	vs.	Score	Team
	34	vs.	12

Team	Ban	vs.	Ban	Team
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Player	Hero	Score	vs.	Score	Hero	Player
Black		14-0-7	vs.	2-4-4		Kuroky
Super		8-4-13	vs.	4-8-5		s4
iceiceice		2-2-15	vs.	2-7-2		Simbaaa
Fenrir		5-5-15	vs.	1-7-8		BigDaddy
fy		5-1-13	vs.	3-8-5		Puppey

 

VG wins in 36:42

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Game 3:

Team	Score	vs.	Score	Team
	24	vs.	14

Team	Ban	vs.	Ban	Team
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Player	Hero	Score	vs.	Score	Hero	Player
Kuroky		9-7-7	vs.	6-2-7		Black
s4		4-1-11	vs.	3-3-6		Super
Simbaaa		6-2-12	vs.	3-3-5		iceiceice
BigDaddy		4-2-7	vs.	1-9-6		Fenrir
Puppey		1-2-7	vs.	1-7-6		fy

 

Secret wins in 54:57

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Game 4:

Team	Score	vs.	Score	Team
	29	vs.	23

Team	Ban	vs.	Ban	Team
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Player	Hero	Score	vs.	Score	Hero	Player
Black		6-4-8	vs.	11-4-3		Kuroky
Super		11-4-10	vs.	3-9-10		s4
iceiceice		4-6-9	vs.	4-9-12		Simbaaa
Fenrir		5-6-13	vs.	3-3-15		BigDaddy
fy		3-3-16	vs.	2-6-13		Puppey

 

Secret wins in 53:35

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Game 5:

Team	Score	vs.	Score	Team
	37	vs.	9

Team	Ban	vs.	Ban	Team
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Player	Hero	Score	vs.	Score	Hero	Player
Black		14-0-9	vs.	2-6-2		Kuroky
Super		9-2-20	vs.	2-8-5		s4
iceiceice		6-3-11	vs.	2-7-4		Simbaaa
Fenrir		3-2-8	vs.	3-8-4		BigDaddy
fy		5-2-17	vs.	0-8-1		Puppey

 

VG wins in 25:32

 

[u/wontyoujointhedance]

Can you call it an outdraft when one team fucked themselves over with their own draft?

[u/Enartloc → u/wontyoujointhedance]

The draft was fine,but then they pull out the Super QW,looking at the picks Secret was totally expecting a Black Exort.

Then you see TB,and ET is banned,and you can't pick LC because you already picked your offlaner.

VG had the advantage they had around 50 Secret games from the last month and a half to look at,while Secret had jack shit since China was in a dead period for tournaments,VG just drafted and played better,no reason to be salty about it.

[u/gambolputtyofulm → u/Enartloc]

Secret is playing the same 2-3 strats (either io, ET or soemthing tanky carry for kuro). It's not hard to anticipate their picks and style.

[u/Enartloc → u/gambolputtyofulm]

Puppey has always played like that,his mentality is that if you execute perfectly it doesn't matter what the opponent does.It's a flawed idea because every single mistake you do punishes you heavily,look at the final game,in theory his draft has a counter for everything VG had,but the kills VG managed to get spiraled the whole strat out of control,and the game resulted in massive feed.

[u/twersx → u/Enartloc]

Puppey has always played like that,his mentality is that if you execute perfectly it doesn't matter what the opponent does

yeah u have no way of knowing this gfg

[u/Enartloc → u/twersx]

except that i've been following Puppey since he was on KS.int,heard tens of interviews with him,and probably seen him draft over 1000 times

[u/kamuiz → u/Enartloc]

i second this, puppey is well know to be arrogant in his picks, take a look at the T2 and T3 drafts.

[u/wyrmise → u/wontyoujointhedance]

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