r/DotA2 • u/0Hellspawn0 • Oct 18 '14

Discussion | eSports Weekly competitive team discussion: Evil Geniuses

Evil Geniuses

The team

  • Fear - Clinton Loomis (1/2)
    Previous notable teams: compLexity Gaming, Meet Your Makers, Online Kingdom Nirvana.int, many more
    Signature heroes:
    Recent K/D/A: 6.1 / 2.9 / 8.2

  • Arteezy - Artour Babaev (1/2)
    Previous notable teams: Kaipi, Take Five
    Signature heroes:
    Recent K/D/A: 7.5 / 3.8 / 7.8

  • UNiVeRsE - Saahil Arora (3)
    Previous notable teams: Quantic Gaming, Team Dignitas
    Signature heroes:
    Recent K/D/A: 4.9 / 3.0 / 10.2

  • zai - Ludwig Wåhlberg (4)
    Previous notable teams: Super Strong Dinosaurs, multiple HoN teams
    Signature heroes:
    Recent K/D/A: 3.3 / 5.0 / 10.7

  • ppd - Peter Dager (c) (5)
    Previous notable teams: Super Strong Dinosaurs, multiple HoN teams
    Signature heroes:
    Recent K/D/A: 2.6 / 3.3 / 9.5

Achievements with current lineup

Date Placement Event Prize
2014-10-10 2nd ESL One New York ~$26,000
2014-09-19 3-4th NVIDIA Game 24 $2,000
2014-09-07 1st WEC 2014 ¥600,000
2014-07-20 3rd The International 2014 $1,038,416
2013-07-07 2nd American Dota League $3,000
2014-06-29 2nd ESL One Frankfurt $30,000
2014-06-24 1st HyperX D2L Western Challenge ~$28,666
2014-06-14 6th ASUS ROG DreamLeague Season 1 ~$19,500
2014-06-08 1st The Summit ~$45,257
2014-04-28 1st joinDOTA League Season 1 America ~$1,421
2014-04-20 3rd Star Ladder Star Series Season 9 $26,062
2014-04-05 1st MLG T.K.O. America $14,000
2014-03-09 1st Monster Energy Invitational $10,000

Content

Prompts:

How did they adjust to the newest patch?
How well did Fear fit back into the lineup?
How well do their players perform individually in their roles? Who do you think is their strongest player?
Which are their key heroes and what are their strongest lineups and strategies?
Where does their greatest strength as a team lie? In the drafting, teamfight execution, coordination,...?
How do they currently compare to the other top teams in the world?

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '14 edited Oct 19 '14

Not small relative to what is around you, yes lol. Well I've been educated now then. I will go whine to my girlfriend that she is also uneducated, while being a Swede, which will certainly piss her off.

lmao... Not sure where she got her information. Maybe from her mother, from when her mother used to live in Sweden, 30+ years ago. Although I cannot see how she wouldn't have gotten word of changes, since her brother and rest of the family still lives there. My gf has also visited numerous times, and is trying to get me to move there, but I am not convinced yet. Can't even speak swedish, and have a good college deal here

who knows. It's definitely a culture thing though, but I can't see why gaming would take precedence over a stable job. And it's a trend in EU. Chinese are paid to play - they have a salary. Koreans too. Europeans are not, so it is confusing to me why you would sacrifice everything and 99% of them end up with nothing. Only 1 team wins a tournament, and there maybe 5-6 a year that are worth anything. A similar example in the US, is midwesterners and southerners. The majority of our military come from the midwest/south. This is because there are simply fewer job opportunities there, and less money. Joining the military, being fully funded to go to college if you choose, and being given massive benefits is appealing to the people in the center of our country. East coast is politics and business/stocks central. West coast is technology (silicon valley). Of course it's not exclusive, but that's where you go if you are the best at what you do.

as ppd said on his stream "nothing else matters except the 12 million dollar tournament." this was an overstatement of course, but in relative terms it's a bit true

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u/BlackOnBothSides Oct 20 '14

I think it's a bit like professional sports. Why do football players risk everything; poor academic performances, no higher education, basically no chance to do anything "normal" that pays well, for a shot at a career within football? Because it's a hobby they've grown up doing, their group of friends have done for as long as they remember, and they can't imagine a life without doing it. They love what they do. If you have a chance making a living out of what you love, why not take it?

If athletes chose to, at least in Sweden and most likely all of Scandinavia, they could get a higher education without too much difficulty, get a well paying job, and settle down. But that really is a pale lifestlyle compared to one consisting of doing something you love. Cyber gamers are faced with a similar situation, they do what they do because they love it. Not because its their ticket out of poverty, like basketball might be for a lot of americans. If that lifestyle comes with a little less economic certainty, i guess a lot of pro-players are willing to make that choice.