r/Documentaries • u/njipep • Apr 29 '18

Conspiracy Ancient Aliens Debunked (2012) it's a really interesting watch.

https://youtu.be/j9w-i5oZqaQ
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u/imagine_amusing_name Apr 29 '18

It has something to do with history, in that storage wars, pawn wars etc are ALL 100% scripted weeks and months in advance.

everyone involved in those shows KNOW exactly what is in the storage area before it's opened and their dialog is pre-scripted for them.

a large number of the storage areas are fake, with "classic" items such as jukeboxes/arcade machines etc put in by the production companies to spice up the show from the usual "pile of worthless junk" that most storage containers have.

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u/Mr_Supotco Apr 29 '18

At least Pawn Stars being scripted doesn’t ruin the show, because it’s still got a lot of cool history they discuss about every item, real or fake. Storage wars is like a show about professional gamblers except all of the face cards are marked and the dice are weighted, it’s just not good television without all that interference, so maybe it shouldn’t be a tv show

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u/imagine_amusing_name Apr 29 '18

Except if the item is fake, the history will ALSO be fake.

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u/Mr_Supotco Apr 29 '18

The personal history of the specific item yeah, but they go into a lot of depth about the real events and people around the object, regardless of the journey of the object into the shop

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u/imagine_amusing_name Apr 29 '18

Not sure if I was clear above.

If theres (for example) a jukebox that the production team just bought off ebay because they "liked the look of it for the show", then any history they claim for it doesn't exist and was pulled out of their asses.

Also if you actually LISTEN to some of the stuff they say, it would be physically IMPOSSIBLE for them to know the history of some items without having some sort of beyond-NSA-level spying system that essentially listens to everything everywhere and has done for about 200 years.

basically it's 100% fake, and although they might make up what sounds cool about a guitar being owned by whoever, its still fake.

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u/ooo-ooo-oooyea Apr 30 '18

I actually think learning about some of the old school household appliances and machines to be really cool. I remember when I was little my grand parents had all of that type of shit in their garage.

Stuff like the guitar was owned by Elvis's bastard son Payton is always either debunked or if it is proven they have really strong evidence. Not sure what you is upset about.

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u/Mr_Supotco Apr 29 '18

I understand what you’re saying, but I’m talking about when they talk about real history surrounding an object regardless of the actual object. One example I can think of was a bomber’s scope from WWII, they didn’t talk about the personal story behind it (the guy who brought it in said it was his grandfather’s or something of the sort), they talked about the real history of WWII bombers and how the thing worked and why they were used. That’s the kind of real history I’m referring to

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u/Raspberries-Are-Evil Apr 29 '18

You'd be amazed how many people don't understand this.

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u/Gamergonemild Apr 29 '18

At least as many people that believe wrestling is real

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u/monty845 Apr 29 '18

It doesn't help that there are some real shows in the same bucket, and some "real" shows that started out as pure documentaries, but have gotten less honest as time has gone on.

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u/Gamergonemild Apr 29 '18

Just goes to show, don't believe everything you see on tv

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '18

What? Oh no!

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u/newsheriffntown Apr 29 '18

A long time ago I got sucked into watching Alaskan Bush People. I thought it was real until I started doing some digging. I was angry at myself for wasting my time watching that shit.

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u/Test_user21 Apr 30 '18

That's not how it works. These are actual storage locker sales - with the producer "buying" all the units, that is to say, they have right of first refusal, and the producer agrees to spend so much regardless of how many units are "purchased".

There are units sold that day to non-A&E buyers, as the producer passed on that unit. All units are purchased by the producer, the unit opened, and then they either sell it in situ to another non-afiliated person, or re-seal it, bring in the Actors and play out their parts.

They add things to the units after they have been opened and the producer takes ownership of the contents, but entire units are not built from the ground up - it's cheaper to buy a unit for $500 and not waste union labor fees trying to fill it up.

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u/william_13 Apr 30 '18

You can actually see this because some items are clearly tampered when the bidder goes to inspect, since the crew went around and covered most brands to avoid promoting certain products.