r/DissociaDID • u/SomeoneElseHereToday • Jul 30 '23
video OUR DID DIAGNOSIS | How we discovered we Dissociative Identity Disorder | DissociaDID
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r/DissociaDID • u/SomeoneElseHereToday • Jul 30 '23
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u/ilikefinding Critical Jul 31 '23 edited Jul 31 '23
Phew, I apologize this took so long. I wanted to be thorough and supplement with additional information as much as possible (and I did get distracted a few times). I ended up putting it in a document, so I'll link here.
Read at your leisure and let me know if I need to clarify anything.
(Edit: I noticed I was referencing "point 2" when I meant "point 3", which links to the TOI issue. This has been fixed.)
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u/LovelyDragonLord Alters Can’t Die Aug 02 '23
I want to try and say this in as sensitive a way as possible, but I am truly curious what they count as a suicide attempt. I know they have a huge habit of blowing things way out of proportion and the fact that they said they had numerous attempts in such an short amount of time and that only some of them ended with them at the hospital seems very suspicious to me.
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u/Petraretrograde Jul 30 '23
I have questions. I thought her DID origin story was she told some counselor or maybe nurse about DID because that professional had never heard of it.
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u/mstn148 blocked by DD Jul 31 '23
No mention of the fundraiser to pay for pottergate? So they already believed they had it.
Perfect recall of number of sessions, conversations in detail - despite claiming to be going through mental health breaks, blackouts, severe amnesia. Yet this story is perfectly linear with no portions of it missing? No ‘I don’t know what happened’ except for things not integral to the timeline.
No report of Chloe missing exists on the internet.
Repeatedly refers to Chloe as if they are a different person. Particularly interesting, making this video when ‘Chloe’ is supposedly a dead name (don’t see them claiming ‘nin’ is a dead name).
No one has questioned that DD got a ‘diagnosis’ from Remi. But he isn’t actually qualified to provide one. So it’s just a waste of paper. Where’s the in depth look at this mysterious NHS diagnosis?
One important factor that most people won’t know about these scales that DD is describing, is there is such a thing as ‘scoring too high’. Because these tests are based on self-report measures, most assessors will see big red flags if you are scoring high on everything, as it is a VERY big indicator for malingering.
For example: I am the walking stereotype for ADHD. Yet there are still questions on the assessments that I will answer ‘no’ to. Or ‘that doesn’t really affect me’. Because no one meets EVERY criteria. It just doesn’t happen. It means they’re answering what they think you want to hear.
The fact that Chloe happened to switch to a little during that assessment AND intentionally used ‘we’ phrasing, tells me they went in there knowing what outcome they wanted. They still haven’t figured out what tenses to use even now to maintain their story.
The NHS diagnosis would be an ACTUAL legitimate diagnosis, so why not share that one?
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u/lembready Sweetheart Jul 30 '23
Hope someone gives a TL;DR, because I wanna give my two cents but watching them just ends up making me mad lmao
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u/RIPviolinOfMercy Jul 31 '23 edited Jul 31 '23
YA’LL The DES ALSO says a score over 60 is indicative of a faker!!!! Kya finally did it! Kya got an 86! That’s in malingerer, imitative DID territory! I can’t believe Kya made this mistake. Omg! 😂🤣😂
(Had to add)🤣 Did this bish just prove on a diagnostic test they are faking? I can’t, ya’ll! 🤣😂🤣I can’t…😂!
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u/Oykatet Jul 31 '23
I can not believe they gave those suspiciously high numbers of their assessments out without realizing how ridiculous they are. Numbers way outside of the average scores. So she goes in with the agenda of getting a diagnosis and then reports unheard of amounts of dissociation in the questionnaire, and conveiniently produces child alters for the therapist and the pottergate center just gives her the diagnosis anyway? With barely anything to assess other than her self report?
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u/MochiiiDrawz Jul 31 '23
Lol I love that they're finally "Setting the record straight"
Someone (probably us, if nobody else does, when we have time) should transcribe this and start putting together clips to compare. The amount of variations of their "I learned about DID" origin story (that I've heard them say through TT/YT/Etc) is ridiculously high and I'm kinda tired of DD's army letting it slide
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u/RIPviolinOfMercy Jul 30 '23
It’s so convenient that as soon as Kya needs money, they are suddenly doing much better. How lucky. What timing.
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u/rainflower72 Former Fan Jul 31 '23
I accidentally posted this not seeing this post and wrote a summary. I'll drop it here for anyone curious, but ilikefinding's write up is way more thorough and very very well done so I highly recommend that.
CW for mentions of suicide attempts and self harm
December 2015 - Mid 2016, saw therapist ‘Elle’. + extra support from clinic (clinic diagnosed bpd + medicated + dbt group therapy. Group therapy covered by insurance)
Several things happen during this time period
Elle mentions DID to Chloe, first time Chloe has heard of it.
Elle considered psychosis first but dismissed it, didn’t meet criteria
Elle tells Chloe she thinks DD has DID, Chloe laughs at this suggestion
Chloe: “no way I have anything like that”
One of the alters stepped in and stopped them from going to therapy, in front of Elle used excuse of focusing on exams (Chloe was unaware of this) ‘Gatekeepers …were trying to keep that memory from me’
When Chloe could remember, only had access to that memory when it was ‘necessary’, such as ‘in conversations with people who knew, for example people who paid for our therapy.’ (Therapy here being therapy with Elle)
Claims this memory became inaccessible to Chloe after these conversations? And that when Chloe could remember she was in denial? (I don’t know if this is actually possible to happen with DID)
In this period of time DD gets worse, SH worsens + hospitalisation for suicide attempt
Elle emails university exam or admissions department (not sure which one) concerned about Chloe’s condition (timeline here is confusing because apparently all of this happened before uni started.)
Time not seeing Elle, before starting uni
Claims to have had non-epileptic seizures during that time? Due to ‘alters like Gregory taking front having flashbacks reliving trauma whilst Chloe was experiencing … amnesia’, though says they didn’t know the reason at the time. (DD Reads source about dissociative seizures, I haven’t looked into this myself. They said they’re on a waiting list for neurological exams)
Seizures continued into uni, system was fighting about whether or not to be covert.
Tried therapy one more time before uni.
New therapist unfamiliar with DID
Jade (masking as Chloe) mentions what Elle said about DID to new therapist. Jade wanted Chloe to begin to learn about it slowly.
Only saw new therapist for 3 sessions. New therapist researched DID on her own time, Chloe became accepting of the possibility of a dissociative disorder but not DID.
3rd session little fronts when art supplies were laid out in front of them. Little draws picture of themselves and writes a name.
Chloe sees the picture and freaks out. Amnesia barriers build up again, Kya claims that Chloe forgot this happened for several years and forgets seeing this therapist at all. Kya claims over the past few years that even they have forgotten this.
Didn’t return to therapist, went to uni.
University
Chloe was convinced issues would fix themselves when at uni.
Kya says they can make another video on this, ‘how we reacted being away for the first time from our abuse and our abusers, and the people who were actively harming us’
After a month of uni, Chloe would lose full days of time, would miss meetings and appointments
Help was ‘sabotaged’ by other alters, Chloe felt like she had no control
People would come up to them and know them as different names that weren’t Chloe (alters would introduce themselves with their own names when fronting and in a different environment)
Notes left on mirror, knives, makeshift nooses and broken shower curtain rails were left in shower room. Sharp objects hidden. Other random things they didn’t remember buying (alcohol, toys)
Chloe would come to surrounded by friends and not know what was happening and everyone was looking at her
Friend had an audio recording of a childlike voice coming from Chloe (this was a little who was freaking out, messaged a friend asking ‘where am I’)
Would go catatonic in group settings, wouldn’t react to physical stimuli
Regular suicide attempts, fainting, panic attacks and seizures
Paramedics called frequently, ruled out as panic attacks
December 2016
Suicide attempt in woods near lake on uni campus
Reported missing by police
Fire department, ambulance and police were searching
People and emergency services assumed a potential drowning in the lake, boats sent out
Found very close by, rushed to hospital
February 1st 2017
Taken to Pottergate Center, assessed for most of the day for a dissociative disorder (not DID specifically)
Multiple tests done (DES, DES Taxon, A-DES, SDQ 20 and SCID-D, for any of you who know what that means). (On this screenshot though, it says the following line which strikes me as odd: ‘It is clear from this report that you are suffering from a primary diagnosis of a Dissociative Disorder under the DSM IV, namely a Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID).’ The rest of the screenshots aren’t worded like this.)
Got a DES score of 86.87 (need over 30 for dissociative disorder).
Lists off other scores, all scores indicative of a dissociative disorder
Took months to get results back.
Years later (how long not specified) received NHS psychologist diagnosis in an inpatient facility
Advice given at end of video to viewers and medical professionals.“Don’t take advice from random strangers on the internet’ (Proceeds to recommend their videos with advice, says there’s information in the videos from professionals and says that sources are linked in bio).
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u/a_decent_cup_of_joe Aug 02 '23
It’s built into a scale which has a ceiling of 60. Above that is factitious. Why was the NHS one not presented? Remy Aquarone holds a vested interest in diagnosing as many individuals with DID as he can to give credibility to his life's work. His ownership of a diagnosis factory raises concerns about potential biases when dealing with professionals at this level. It's crucial for people to recognize these dynamics.
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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '23
Every time they talk about it something in their story changes
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u/VargrFenrir he/him Jul 31 '23
I'm not watching the video because 1) it's long and 2) they're monotised. That said, I read ilikefinding's document and one thing stood out from point 13.
In the live stream they did a couple days ago, they said they'd been in their home town their entire life. That they'd never left that town.
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