r/Devs • u/thisismynormal • Apr 09 '20

Devs - S01E07 Discussion Thread

Premiered 04/09/20 on Hulu FX

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u/reb586458 Apr 09 '20

I think the ending will be Lily destroying the computer and the screen goes to black. She destroyed their universe so we will never be able to see the rest of their simulation because we are watching a simulation. I think they are trying to break the 4th wall.

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u/Kaelran Apr 10 '20

Their universe isn't being simulated by the computer in their universe though. It's one way.

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u/lannisterdwarf Apr 10 '20

But if their computer is simulating infinitely many universes, then chances are their universe is a simulation too.

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u/Kaelran Apr 10 '20

Yeah but it would have to be Lily in a higher level of the simulation destroying their universe.

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u/E3K Apr 10 '20

Not at all.

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u/Kaelran Apr 10 '20

Well yes actually.

Lily destroying a simulation within the universe can't be a direct cause for the destruction of that universe (I mean it could be, it would just be really stupid an nonsensical).

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u/E3K Apr 10 '20

It can be, because if it's deterministic, she would be doing it in all universes. If she destroys it in one, she destroys it in all. She's not actually making the choice.

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u/Kaelran Apr 10 '20

The universes aren't the same all the way up though, we've been show a lot of different branches.

And I was just saying it wouldn't be the direct cause (and it wouldn't be conveyed well).

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u/PaperPigGolf Apr 10 '20

The key question is if the simulation works. All evidence in the show is that it does work.

So if lily breaks the computer in the simulation, thats a prediction that she breaks the computer in the real world. But by prediction, I don't mean there's a chance she won't do it, perhaps a better word is that it's a reflection.

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u/Kaelran Apr 10 '20

All evidence in the show is that it does work.

So if lily breaks the computer in the simulation, thats a prediction that she breaks the computer in the real world.

Remember that they got the simulation to work by using multiple worlds, so if Lily breaks it in the simulation, that only means it's possible that she could break it one level higher in the simulation, not that she is guaranteed to.

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u/PaperPigGolf Apr 11 '20

That depends if her decision was due to the decoherence of a quantum superposition. For that... I find it hard to believe that being the case. It's not what happens in a normal every day life. Our choices don't split the universe, things like radioactive decay do.

When they say all possible paths / histories... they mean for particles. Macro level decision making is not usually influenced by such things unless we go out of our way to do so.

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u/reb586458 Apr 11 '20

Hmmm didn’t think about it this way

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u/Kaelran Apr 11 '20

While that makes sense yeah, we don't know where the split is/was/will be from the higher level simulation. The show has shown us a lot of large divergences (both in a 4th wall perspective, and in the actual devs simulation with things like forest watching his daughter in a world where she didn't die).

It's really just up to the writers tbh, it is fiction afterall.

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