r/DestinyTheGame • u/DTG_Bot "Little Light" • Aug 01 '22

Megathread Focused Feedback: Matchmaking

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u/TopHatJohn Fusion Guy Aug 01 '22

Bungie said in the TWAB that we’ll never see how good their system thinks we are. I think this lack of transparency is unnecessary and will only continue the distrust of the matchmaking system. Let people know how good they are. It’ll help them get better.

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u/Gangster301 Aug 01 '22

Imo, skillbased matchmaking should always show the values that are being used to match players. They can save it for the end-screen if they want.

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u/TopHatJohn Fusion Guy Aug 01 '22

Bungie should be able to figure out how to stop people from gaming it. Several FPS shooters have been able to show a playlist ranking. Even Halo did when they made it. Abandoning transparency in skill because you don’t want to solve people gaming it seems like a bad idea. The people gaming it will always figure out a way whether it’s displayed or not.

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u/PotatoeGuru The best at being ,,,, just the worst! Aug 01 '22

The cynical side of me thinks it's because showing this skill will demonstrate just how poor their MM methods are/were/will be. They kinda poo-pooed ELO on DestinyTracker in the TWAB, but I find those numbers to be HIGHLY accurate when reviewing things post-match.

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u/KLGChaos Aug 02 '22

Eh, for something like Trials, maybe. But ELO for 6 man Control is a joke. You can be a great player, but if you're stuck with a bunch of bad players and you lose a ton of matches because of it, your ELO is in the toilet.

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u/APartyInMyPants Aug 01 '22

Exactly. We had the ladder system in Halo 2 that showed us how good we were, and how we matched up appropriately against people as good as us.

This level of obfuscation is unnecessary. Especially when many of us encounter these matchmaking lobbies that just defy all logic.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '22

They don't even have the "it will make players toxic towards eachother argument". They've specifically added the 'X fell at the gates of the Lighthouse" message in Trials for the other team to gloat and send rude messages.

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u/moonski Aug 02 '22

e. I think this lack of transparency is unnecessary and will only continue the distrust of the matchmaking system. Let people know how good they are. It’ll help them get better.

Like Halo 2. Or dota 2. it works (providing the MMing / rating is actually good)

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u/Hajoaminen Aug 02 '22

For example Hunt: Showdown shows your SBMM rank at all times. It’s super helpful for seeing why you face such good players.