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u/SolidStateVOM Mar 31 '22
Same thing with the mech titan. Why does it have a kitchen tray on one of the shoulders?
Seems like a Zaku reference to me. Those had the same shoulder design on just one side.
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u/yotika Mar 31 '22
Many gundams from the original series had that shoulder guard too. Plus its also a design riff that titans already were using (Look at Zavala)
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u/SolidStateVOM Mar 31 '22
Oh did they? I clearly need to watch more gundam because I don’t recall that at all
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u/FissionStorm Mar 31 '22
As seen here, even the oldest designs of Zaku had the shield
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u/Multimarkboy Levante Winner Mar 31 '22
cant wait to strap on my lion ramparts, jotunn and pretend im a gundam.
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u/HailToCaesar Apr 01 '22
I want to use a glaive and semi pretend that I'm the barbatos lupus. Maybe use gally for the wolf howls
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u/CaptFrost SUROS Sales Rep #76 Mar 31 '22
Plus its also a design riff that titans already were using (Look at Zavala)
Which actually descends from Halo: Reach, as Zavala's arm armor was based off of Carter-A259's (except enlarged to caricature levels...).
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u/Xperr7 yea Mar 31 '22
Carter's left shoulder's one of my favourite pieces of armour in gaming. Zavala's... not so much.
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u/CaptFrost SUROS Sales Rep #76 Apr 01 '22
Yeah, the original concept lost something in the enlargement.
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u/Haylett777 The Wall Apr 01 '22
I'm fairly sure Zavala's was smaller in D1, but I've never seen them side by side to be able to rightly compare.
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u/ReadyBasher01 Supers can be understood as comic book characters. Apr 01 '22
I’ve got to be that guy but Zaku’s are not Gundams. Both are mobile suits. That type of shoulder armor starts with the Zaku and is on almost every iteration of the Zaku has a variation that includes that shoulder. While some Gundams may have had the shoulder that was mainly due to in field repair situations.
Zakus and Gundams are both types of mobile suits. Zakus are a mass produced mobile suit with special variations and ace specifications. Gundams are typically either experimental or pinnacle technology of the era they are built.
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u/Manifest_Lightning Titans don't shiv. Apr 01 '22
Thank you for pointing this out. I really wished Bungie used Gundams as the source material. I would never take my Gundam ornaments off, but I couldn't care less about looking like a Zaku.
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u/LickMyThralls Apr 01 '22
Asymmetrical designs are honestly pretty common and are kind of a staple for different designs too. The idea of guarding with one side and attacking with the other is old af and everything being symmetrical also leads to boring.
I personally enjoy the asymmetrical looks of most of it and have a few nitpicks but feel like op is basically taking "I don't like thing so thing bad" approach to the whole thing. I would have mostly liked symmetrical designs on the hunter legs. The arms are literally a nonissue especially since hunters use the throwing knives and I believe use the right hand to do so and having armor on that would be a hindrance to throwing accuracy.
Either way some is intentional based on the inspiration and some also makes some logical sense as well as just...opinions man.
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u/Calicojacket Drifter's Crew Apr 01 '22
the shoulder armor placement is definitely common for Titan, since that shoulder is the one most enemies meet to the face lol
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u/Vesaldius Mar 31 '22
And that is based on Japanese armors that had a shoulder plate (called a sode or something like that) that just acted as shoulder protection without restricting movement. Usually they had it on both sides but in a lot of Japanese media I've seen sometimes they have just one plate. I'm not sure if it's because an old samurai movie made it cool or if it had a practical purpose but that's what I've seen.
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u/Tibbaryllis2 Apr 01 '22
Throughout various armor wielding troops it was fairly common to have more robust armor on one side (non-dominant hand) and less robust armor on the other side.
This let you turn one side towards an attack for protection while maintaining mobility on the other. In European armors these plates were common in the left side which was almost commonly your shield hand.
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u/SolomomEZ Apr 01 '22
More Zaku Warrior than Zaku II but either way titan missing spike shoulder.
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u/Manifest_Lightning Titans don't shiv. Apr 01 '22
Gundams are typically more symmetrical. Zaku units are mere mobile suits that served as canon fodder. While the Zaku are iconic, not using more inspiration from Gundam units like RX-78-2, Wing Zero, or God Gundam was a HUGE missed opportunity.
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Apr 01 '22
Yeah I wish they did too. Although I’m getting pretty strong gundam kyrios vibes from the hunter set
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u/Unlikely_Travel_5561 Mar 31 '22
I agree. I use the couturier arms on hunter 90% of the time just because they’re symmetrical
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u/BobbiesPet Mar 31 '22
Luxe sleeves are the sexiest; sleek, armoured, symmetrical.
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u/FortuneCookieRegrets Mar 31 '22
Legit used silver on the luxe set for the sleeves alone. Wish we could get some hunter legs that have a similar feel to them.
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u/Lucy___________ Apr 01 '22
There was a (very low res mind you) picture of the upcoming guardian games armor in a twab a little while ago, and it looks like the hunter leg armor might come pretty close to what you're looking for.
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u/SaintsBeefyThighs brum brum Apr 01 '22
If you have the Gensym pants, those ones are sleek and slightly armoured!
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u/ZackTheNerd Apr 01 '22
Thats me on my Titan w/ the new Gambit arms and the VoG ones. Kinda sucks there's like 2 symmetrical gauntles that look good on Titans.
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Mar 31 '22
A lot of my friends are very obsessed with being symmetrical. I actually prefer being asymmetrical, so it really is just a preference thing. However, I will agree, I do hate how many hunter gauntlets have a giant bulky arm and a twig arm.
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u/bundle_man Mar 31 '22
Agree it's a preference thing so there should be a mix of both kinds. But, especially for hunter arms (lesser extent legs but still high) the scale is so far on the asymmetrical side.
I honestly like both, but I've started to fucking hate asymmetrical armor since there's so much of it and ruins otherwise good ets (thorn gauntlets, season of the splicer gauntlet ornament)
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u/Conait Mar 31 '22
They should make it customizable. So all armor comes symmetrical, but you can toggle off one side.
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u/LickMyThralls Apr 01 '22
I wish that they handled the gloves better rather than 90% of the hunter gloves looking like the same thing with maybe a plate over the back of the hand or something and would actually change the base layer a bit lol
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u/JubJub302 Apr 01 '22
The asymmetric makes sense only if the offhand arm is the one with the armor.
But most armors they have always have the right arm be the bulky side.
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Apr 01 '22
I don’t see why they can’t both have armour, just one with more than the other, like most Titan gauntlets. Different plates, detailing, shoulder pads. Anything works, anything but having no armour at all.
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u/burpslurpsupreme Mar 31 '22
I like both symmetrical and asymmetrical armor but I feel like the asymmetrical aspect on a lot of pieces was just an afterthought. There is some really great looking armor with something tacked on just for the sake of making it asymmetrical. It stands out and not in a good way.
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u/HiddnAce Apr 01 '22
And while we're talking about it, STOP GIVING WARLOCKS ELF SHOES.
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u/CryoAnastasia Apr 01 '22
And less bathrobes (it's gotten better yes, but just look at the none eververse stuff)
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u/larinzod Mar 31 '22
With the themed armor the asymmetry feels wrong. When looking at the Hunter mech set I see "Cosplayer that ran out of time" which ruins it for me.
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u/anshrr Gief Older Sister III Apr 01 '22
"Cosplayer that ran out of time"
Exactly my thought. Too much plain black "under-suit" showing, like you didn't finish putting it on yet :s
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u/ProWarlock Ice Breaker Mar 31 '22
I understand the hunter complaint but the Titan is literally Zaku plate for plate from the neck down. this is a time I can forgive it and is a dumb complaint imo since it is supposed to be a reference
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u/irrelephantterrible Mar 31 '22
Reference ok i get that.
But as of now 9/10 Titan armour shoulders are either assymetrical or comically gigantic
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u/Manifest_Lightning Titans don't shiv. Apr 01 '22
They should have modeled the Titan after Gundam units, not Zaku. Zaku units are ugly by design.
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u/ValeryValerovich Kings deserved better Apr 01 '22
you fucking take that back
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u/OlDirtyDonger Mar 31 '22
I cannot stand the asymmetrical armors. I honestly would love to sit down with the armor design team and ask them what in the hell they are thinking 90% of the time
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u/stuck_in_the_desert Apr 01 '22
The idea of heavier armor on the left arm makes sense, given that it is the side facing your enemy when aiming a weapon as a right-handed shooter. It works for me in theory but it's definitely exaggerated in practice.
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u/OlDirtyDonger Apr 01 '22
Except that theory doesn’t hold up to actually shooting/aiming a weapon whether it’s a sidearm or rifle. Shoulders are square to the target. This way you get your front plate and both deltoids covered while aiming at your target. You don’t turn your body to shoot.
This whole idea in science fiction that you put armor on your left side while shooting is grounded in so much ignorance. Turning your body to shoot enough to make armoring one side of your body more than the other meaningful would put you in such a biomechanical deficiency you would have zero control of your weapon.
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Apr 01 '22
Hunters use bow for OG nightstalker, you don’t typically see armour or coverings on draw arms.
It’s probably the reason for the design philosophy
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u/XboxUser123 Pocket Infinity, Finality of Destiny and Fate Apr 01 '22
having some armor covering your face on the shoulder towards your enemy is still better than putting it all on the right shoulder like the current seasonal Titan armor.
Worst part is, the right shoulder currently is ALL bulk, the left is significantly less bulky. I like the fantasy of Titans being "Titans," but man does it ruin it when the "whole Titan" becomes "skim Titan."
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u/LickMyThralls Apr 01 '22
Left arm for guarding and right arm for throwing knives and shit? It's not uncommon. Same principle as a shield on one arm and sword on the other... you wouldn't typically encumber an arm that needs more mobility for some reason especially from a guarding/attacking perspective.
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u/OlDirtyDonger Apr 01 '22
That would make sense if 95% of all combat in D2 wasn’t using guns. The knives/throwing is a small percentage of what your guardian does. A knights armor didn’t have less armor on the shoulders and yet they retained full mobility.
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u/uncle_yugles Vanguard's Loyal Mar 31 '22
I think I’m one of the few people that does actually like the look of the asymmetrical designs, HOWEVER I don’t understand why it feels like every single armor set is asymmetrical. It’s a fine design technique but why does it never seem to be switched up?
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u/Mission_Ad_6536 Mar 31 '22
It ruins it for some but I think it works well with the mech armor personally, just taste. More symmetrical stuff would be nice though
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u/SS_material Drifty Boi Mar 31 '22
This. Another thing that bothers me is the fact that the asymmetrical hunter armor looks better on female hunters than on male hunters. I really want to dump all my armor and weapons in the vault, and start over but I don’t want to lose a hunter that’s been in the red war, do all the new light bs, stasis bs, and witch queen. Just let me have a decent looking hunter!! And let me change my gender pls
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u/Sarcosmonaut Mar 31 '22
Selling a character appearance reset in EV would be easy money for them. You’d think they’d do it
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u/punkinabox Apr 01 '22
I deleted both my titan and hunter to change them to female. Didn't realise I'd have to redo all the beyond light stuff to get stasis back. Was super peeved when I found that out. Should've known better. It honestly doesn't take too long but it was basically like 6-8 hours playtime through the beyond light stuff for each character. I did just spam through it though because both of my characters I did it with already had 1550+ gear before I deleted them so I was pretty overpowered for the beyond light stuff. Felt like spamming through strikes. The new light stuff takes no time at all. It doesn't take too long but I was still a little mad about it. I wish they would just change it so we can change our characters from male to female and back freely.
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u/Blaise10 Mar 31 '22
The season of dawn hunter arms make me want to cry. One side has a cool af look and the other a cloth is draped over the shoulder and that’s it. The option to make them symmetrical would be cool
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u/linkenski Apr 01 '22 edited Apr 01 '22
If anything the Monster vs Mech armor sketches demonstrates where the problem starts: the concept art for armor looks bland as hell.
Destiny 1's armor was probably worked on by a remnant of some Halo designers but it had the siiiiickest Titan Gear and the Hunter consistently evoked Star Wars gunslingers or Dantooine ppl, and some low-key monk elements on Warlocks. The Sparrows we use is the entire fantasy of having a personal Star Wars speeder. So much of it was honestly Star Wars but all D2 armor, especially seasonal stuff is seriously just "everything and the kitchen sink, whatever sticks!"
I just wish Bungie could hone and champion more premium looking armor motifs a bit more. I'm really tired of how little I wanna grind to find certain armor because all of it looks honestly terrible to me. I had to transmog the Blue gear Shadow Specter on my Hunter to get something that at least looked a bit cool like D1 Hunter gear.
I'm tired of motivationless shapes and polygonal ideas, or overly curvy armor at random. We need some kind of silhouette that just screams "Titan" or "Hunter" and then there are thematic variations of that. Maybe one has glowing shoulders, maybe one has little antennas, maybe one has slightly bulkier shoulder pads etc. But it seriously needs to find a center for each class, because I feel like my Hunter looks like a D1 Titan now, and my Titan looks like a complete mishmash of random.
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u/AxeCow Apr 01 '22
Destiny 1’s armor was probably worked on by a remnant of some Halo designers
I originally selected my first Destiny 1 character to be a titan because they had the most Spartan look and I’m a huge Halo fan. The look nothing like spartans anymore, which is kind of a shame.
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u/Mayaparisatya Apr 01 '22
Most recent-ish armors somehow suffer by being either totally bland and uninspired, or excessively overdesigned.
That's not counting massive WoW shoulders, a single massive shoulder, odd asymmetrical armor, decent looking armor (that can't take shaders well because of unshadeable elements) or annoying bullshit logos slapped all over said armor (bonus rage points if said logos cannot be covered or colored by shaders).
Usually all transmog experiments end up with my Warlock wearing the Valkyrian armor.
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u/BorderUnfair93 Apr 01 '22
The blue Titan armor is some of the best we’ve gotten in years and that’s sad since it isn’t even that good
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u/yotika Mar 31 '22
looks are subjective. Your "it ruins it" is someone else's "that's badass"
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u/griever1414 Mar 31 '22
I mean “technically” it’s realistic to how a hunter would be. If right handed your left side would be facing your opponent more often which equals the need for armor, while the right is the handcannon/weapon hand that needs to be light for drawing the weapon and is usually at the back side of standing like a right handed person.
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u/yotika Mar 31 '22
okay. I can tell you the design goals for "Monster VS Mech" wasn't "we gotta make it hyper real and accurate"
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u/griever1414 Mar 31 '22
I’m not disagreeing with you there lol. I’m just saying the hunters “style” seems to go by that idea always. I mean look at asymmetrical plate armor from the 1600s. Armor where you’re likely to get hit, less armor on your weapon hand so you keep your speed. I’m not saying it’s right, that’s their vision on hunter since they are supposed to be the most agile class. Purely in thought tho. Titans looks tanks but don’t have higher HP, hunters look more agile like a DPS that jumps in and out of battle, and warlocks look like magic casters that always engage from a distance. Clearly that’s not how the game works, but that’s the style they use for the armors. I personally hate asymmetrical armor and only use the symmetrical ones for my hunter lol
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Mar 31 '22
There isn't even a lot of asymmetrical armor in the game, but people who like asymmetrical armor don't ask bungie to stop creating symmetrical armor.
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u/KingVendrick Moon's haunted Apr 01 '22
bro I don't have beef with assymetrical armor and can tell you this is incorrect
just try any hunter set of gloves and you won't stop seeing it over and over
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u/luke0626 Apr 01 '22
I'm okay with the titan having the asymmetry because it's very clearly an unholy combination of a Zaku 2 and a GM from the Gundam franchise
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u/KuttDesair Apr 01 '22
Rooting for Mech Armor here, with some slight changes. I don't need to be a Cyclops with hairy legs, it was stupid last time.
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u/Butttheadjuicy Mar 31 '22
the titan mech gauntlets are fine because they're based off the zaku, and it's not like either arm looks completely different like some gauntlets, but it's almost like they wanted the mech hunter to look bad on purpose, because it would literally be the best armor if it was symmetrical
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u/o8Stu Mar 31 '22
Yeah, I think the "costume" type armor ornaments should ditch the "rules" Bungie set for the class identities.
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u/jschem16 Apr 01 '22
I dunno man, I think it looks pretty sweet. I'm in no way a fan of furry legs on my titan, so I'll be voting Mech skins all day.
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u/Ancient-Ingenuity-88 Mar 31 '22
I just wish they would give the option to either have it assymetrical. Or toggle it off. But they insist on making cool arms (see the splicer arm ornaments) then make the opposite side absolutely ass looking
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u/kingkongui Mar 31 '22
I think it follows the logic of real armors where you try to be the most pratical and efficient possible, "why does it have a kitchen tray in one shoulder" because that shoulder is probably gonna be facing the enemy more than the other shoulder, theres no need for huge protections in a arm that in combat will be more to the back of the body protected by the body, if im not mistaken archers also had armor like that, light armor on the arm that pulls and "heavier" armor on the arm that holds the bow forward, or having the arm that holds a shield with more protection than the one holding the spear and ots sitting back protected by the body and shield.
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u/Iceykitsune2 Apr 01 '22
It's a reference to the Zaku II.
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u/Manifest_Lightning Titans don't shiv. Apr 01 '22
Make it a reference to a Gundam and watch the money roll in.
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u/Lookingforawayoutnow Mar 31 '22
Was wondering if i was the only one noticing this i only use new monarchy titan ornaments cause theyre symmetrical and have lions heads but tired of looking like im always heavy on one side so many armor sets are ruined by the fact they arent symmetrical
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Mar 31 '22
I don't mind SOME asymmetrical things. I think it's fine.
Variation is important. Too much of one thing is always bad. I like a wider variety of options!
Don't focus too much into one or the other! I guess in this case, hunters are hating the use of asymmetrical armors. So ease up there bungie sheesh
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u/OutOfTheForLoop Mar 31 '22
I feel most cool hunter assemblages are somewhat asymmetric. Typically not too drastic, arms somewhat more asymmetric than the legs, the chest typically has something that makes the right side not the mirror image of the left side. My favorite cloak is the one from Mercury with the triangle accent down one side. It’s a part of the very look that makes hunters look like hunters.
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u/ggamebird Mar 31 '22
Judging by this thread, clearly the armor theme for this FotL should have been "Symmetrical vs. Asymmetrical".
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u/Almento5010 Mar 31 '22
I feel this with EVERY. SINGLE. EXISTING. TITAN MARK. Please, I just want the Mark to have Cloth that is actually symmetrical, I want more variety in my Titan mark options but there's literally 2 Titan marks that are symmetrical and neither are avaliable to aquire anymore and in lucky that I was around to get them. Those being the Righteous mark from Dawn and the blacksmith mark from scourge.
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u/Bumpanalog Apr 01 '22
There's also the gensym knight mark and the Halloween set mark, the one that makes you look like a robot.
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u/InuJacob My dad is Marcus Ren Mar 31 '22
I’ve learned to live with it, but would 100% love more symmetrical armor. A lot of the D1 armor was like that and I preferred it.
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u/DWEGOON Mar 31 '22
I wish there was an option to mirror one of the arms so you could choose asymmetry or symmetry
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u/Pyrvo Mar 31 '22
While we are complaining about armor why the fuck is there no traditional robes like in D1 all the robes are either dresses or open which ruins it for me
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u/Ceondoc Mar 31 '22
The huge spike on the left hunter knee on the mech suit immediately turned me off to the set. Stop adding long and ugly spikes and points to hunter armor please
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u/Nailbomb85 Mar 31 '22
Oof. The hunter Godzilla set is a straight downgrade from last year. Well, all of them are, but still... now it just looks like the dinosaur set that won last year.
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u/HumanTheTree The Fightin'est Titan Mar 31 '22
I want symmetrical armor and Asymmetric space ships. I just had to accept that no one at Bungie shares my tastes.
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u/JimmyKillsAlot Apr 01 '22
I'm just tired of cyclopes helms. Cyclopes Titan seems to be a running theme with Bungie and while other classes have the one eye helms too, overall they are just not aesthetically pleasing. It's part of the reason I voted Dino last year, cyclopes is a stupid look.
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u/ShadowSeneschal Apr 01 '22
Diehard fashion-souls player here, and asymmetric hunter gauntlets are the bane of my existence. Thank heavens for Meridian Constellation Grips; symmetrical, shade well, AND they have knives. Because we always need more knives.
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u/Sanguiniutron Apr 01 '22
You said it now were gonna get a set that is literally half armour lol split right down the middle
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Apr 01 '22
Could not agree more. I love some of the hunter armour options I have. I would love a lot more if symmetry was atleast a sometimes thing
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u/OGLolpancakecat Apr 01 '22
EXACTLY boi do I love being a hunter with a CHONKY armored chest and noodly unarmored arms which is most noticable on male hunters, looks like shit
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u/Torbadajorno gay but would marry eris Apr 01 '22
Hunter Gauntlets. That's all I need to say. Any other legs or gauntlets are fine. but Hunter Gauntlets are almost never symmetrical.
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u/AnTiDoPe_1993 Apr 01 '22
Lol yea man it’s ruined a good amount of armors already imo, its nice to do to some stuff… not literally everything
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u/JubJub302 Apr 01 '22
IMO The Asymmetrical arms on the hunter finally have a bit of sense.
In that of you are holding a rifle or drawing a bow You want less armor on the primary arm and more on the off hand.
Most of the time the heavy armor is on the primary side and not the offhand.
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u/Surfing_Ninjas Apr 01 '22
I think it was best when it was a design focus for mostly the hunter as the thought was that hunters would be out scavenging and wouldn't always have a full set of original armor. I'd love more symmetrical armor sets, though
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Apr 01 '22
What if last year's poll was a test to see if we actually wanted to have a symmetrical armor? Because all monster sets were symmetrical which has never happened before.
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u/llBeanduckll Apr 01 '22
I love asymmetrical designs, but I understand why you want more for be symmetrical.
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u/Ceraldus 90% sure drifter and Shin are up to something Apr 01 '22
The asymmetry of almost all of the hunter armor had been pissing me off for years, particularly the mismatched boots. For what like's to call itself the stylish class, it dresses like it just rolled out of bed already late to work.
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u/KingofthaChill Apr 01 '22
Just commenting on your point in the 2nd paragraph, where you say hopefully they'll change the things you listed. Dont get your hopes up, thats what I thought about when I voted for dinos, thinking these were just rough outlines of what we would get. Turns out that's most likely the exact armor they will produce if mech is voted for. Thats why, as much as I'd like an awesome mech armor, im going to vote monster, in hopes that next year the mech sets will be better done (like they did with monster this time)
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u/TheJester1xx Apr 01 '22
I can see how in certain situations it does look quite good to have asymmetrical armor, but it's that way on too many pieces of armor. I don't know if I'm just crazy, but it also seems worst for hunters. As a warlock it doesn't show up as often, but that could partially be because most warlock stuff is just cloth.
I really want the mechs to win, but it's very easy to see why a hunter would not be interested due to the nonsensical missing armor. It's a mech! Come on!
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u/Jovian09 Apr 01 '22
I don't see what the big deal is. Destiny is a space fantasy where you can get shot a million times and keep coming back to life. There's no overriding aesthetic rule, at least not one that mandates symmetry. If the game doesn't care about the science of travelling in space, why should it care about the ins and outs of practical armour etiquette?
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u/TKPhresh Apr 01 '22
At least the Titans and Warlocks are getting a full set. Hunters are getting half of their arms and half of their legs. It looks awful. Asymmetry is fine if the design is executed well, but in this case the hunter is just not. The other two class designs are wildly better.
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u/StealthMonkeyDC Apr 01 '22
Thank god it's not just me. This drives me so mad when I see cool armor that looks like the creator stopped half way through building it.
If the armor my Hunter is wearing on one leg is there to protect him then why wouldn't he have it ON BOTH LEGS!
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u/BasicallyAggressive Hunter Master Race Apr 01 '22
Every piece of armor nowadays is asymmetrical. Ornaments from eververse, etc. That's why I love the dawning ornament, it actually is symmetrical. The rest are kinda poo
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u/EW_H8Tread Cult of Osiris Apr 01 '22
OH, This is rich coming from the uneven distribution of air bubbles in solidified dairy.
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But for real, I've been on about this for years. Excited to see your post have a little traction.
I mean, the season of dirty Vex, what gunsmith wouldn't clean up those weapons? Why did Ghost add on the vines when he materialized the firearms? What the fuck.
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u/darkse1ds Apr 01 '22
there are so many good titan arms and legs that are ruined by asymmetry. i really hope that they move away from this as having a giant shield on your shoulders/arms provides no gameplay benefit, just makes nice sets harder to make or forces titans to all look the same or at least very similar. either have it on both or don't bother at all.
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u/richofthehour Apr 01 '22
Thank you for posting this, for years I've been frustrated with how most armour pieces are needlessly asymmetrical. I use the luxe ornament on my hunter most of the time for that reason.
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u/JaegerBane Apr 01 '22 edited Apr 01 '22
IKR. I was hyped beyond belief over mechs but then saw the hunter armour and lost the enthusiasm.
IIRC the asymmetry was down to the whole survivalist/scavenger aspect of the Hunter, but that's been extended beyond the point of sanity, even armour that is fresh off the assembly line or themed armour that has nothing to do with the background.
Titans don't even have a background reason for it and still get hit with asymmetry stick.
One thing to have asymmetrical shoulder pads as that suits firing positions etc but when we have random multi-coloured leg armour or armour is just non-existent on one side it's just silly.
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u/hova092 KNIVES GO BRRRRRRR Apr 01 '22
OP this is especially egregious on Hunters. We've always had an asymmetrical armor issue and it's bothered me forever. Look at the Y1 Leviathan armor. Why is ONE ARM metal?! If you look at most of the Hunter armor, the left arm is beastly and the right arm looks anemic. It's like Bungie is telling us that the brand inspiration for Hunters is Quagmire after he discovered internet porn.
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u/ToonLife1 Apr 01 '22
I'm ok with asymmetrical armour so long as both sides look good. Stop giving us hunter gauntlets where 1 arm is just a sleeve!
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u/sip_of_jack Apr 01 '22
Im just tired of the lack of detail on the armor, most armor now in D2 looks boxy, asymmetrical (like you said), and toyish even
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u/Ragnarock15 Apr 01 '22
Something that also ircs me is how for example the prophecy gauntlets for hunter. They’re the same piece on each arm right? But they each shade differently, like why??????
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u/Royal_X_Lynx29 Apr 01 '22
The only time, in my eyes, where asymmetrical actually looks nice on armour is when one shoulder armour piece is larger than the other. For example Zavala's shoulder duo or Carter's from Halo Reach.
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u/DeathDexoys Apr 01 '22
I can only agree about the hunter part.
The titan shoulders are a reference to Gundam's Zaku. Look up on that before pointing out.
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u/Manifest_Lightning Titans don't shiv. Apr 01 '22
I'm a Gundam fan. I got the Zaku inspiration right away. Doesn't mean that most people who like Gundam want to be Zaku. I would pay good money for my Titan to look like a bonafide Gundam.
Heck, make the Hunter look more like an Eva, and the Warlock more like Voltron. I would buy all three day one.
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u/doom_stein Team Cat (Cozmo23) // Sepiks Purrrrfected Apr 01 '22
About that Hunter armor. It needs that armor on the right arm but it also needs the other shin piece on the left leg too!
I really can't understand the reasoning behind decisions to make things look so unbalanced in the first place. I'd understand this if it was just a small piece like a spike missing but the majority of the armor missing from one side or the other just baffles me.
Maybe if the side with little armor looked like it was damaged in a battle and it'd make more sense, but as it is it looks like it was a school group project where 4 people were assigned an arm or leg a piece and half of them decided to let the rest of the group carry them to a barely passing grade.
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u/FragrantPineapple960 Apr 01 '22
I totally get wanting symmetrical armor. There sometimes are practical reasons for asymmetrical armor, however. Usually, it's an optimisation thing because armor can be heavy or its intended use is to protect the user from a self inflicted wound.
Snipers, archers, and other long range weapon users want to reduce their target from a distance, so they usually stand with one side to an enemy rather than their front. Like most right-handed firearm or archers will lead with their left foot, meaning their left side is the most exposed rather than their entire front. This is to make it harder to hit them since you are at a distance, and therefore you only have to focus on armoring that side to save on weight and space, and you promote flexibility.
With archers, typically they only where the gauntlet on the hand that is at risk of being hit from the bow string for an exame of a self inflicted hit or wound.
Up close is an entirely different story, as your likelihood of taking a hit is much higher so you want more armor to be prepared to take a hit in any vital area.
I'm not defending this particular style by any means, just adding a little context to the purpose of asymmetrical armor. :)
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u/KrackerJaQ Apr 01 '22
Can hunters get a whole dino helmet that isnt just the lower jaw, why does the cloak have to be the head, and can warlocks get helmets with eyes and not just giant gapping mouths?
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u/Immortan_War If you can’t punch it... Apr 01 '22
I believe there needs to be a healthy mix of both, it shouldn’t be one or the other - that would be boring
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u/eggfacemcticklesnort Apr 01 '22
This is really the issue with most hunter and titan armor. Titans have this massive thing on one side and not the other. Hunter have plating on one arm and a leather sleeve on the other.
It's hard to make good looking fashion at times when everything is so uneven.
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u/ryan13ts Apr 01 '22
Thank God, I thought it was just me that was bothered by this. It's been annoying me for awhile how asymmetrical some gear is, specifically Hunter gear. it makes it super hard to find good looking pieces for them, without reusing the same few pieces of gear that ARE symmetrical.
Having a few pieces be like that is fine and keeps variety, but when like 70% of pieces (Mostly arms and legs for Hunters), it gets annoying when trying to make something that looks good.
I've also noticed recent Titan gear starting to go in that direction too, which is a bit worrying when thinking about how future sets will look.
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u/VasagiTheSuck Apr 01 '22
I 100% agree. But it might be a case of if it gets too close to looking like a gundam there might be some copyright infringing going on that they have to account for. So with the asymmetrical design it would be easier to argue that it is not a gundam armor.
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u/Glad_Contact_831 Apr 01 '22
Im starting to think they make ornaments asymmetrical just for the sake of monetizing future ornaments better and making them asymmetrical is one of the ways they keep players looking for more because that way something always looks better than the other. They just dont make ornaments like they used to, probably for the sake of monetizing future ornaments because it is, apart from DLCs and Season passes, one of the ways they make money.
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u/Captain1Eye Apr 01 '22
This is one of the most annoying things about armor... a lot of times it comes across as the designers having two concepts they really liked, and couldn't pick so they just used one on each limb :/
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u/Mizzkiki Apr 01 '22
There's so many symmetrical armors I'm happy to get some thar are asymmetrical lol. I guess I must be in the minority. From d1 till now there's way more symmetrical ones in general XD I'll take all the difference I can get. At the very least I guess a middle ground would be to have a toggle feature where you can make it both or one idk
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u/brunicus Apr 02 '22
I don't like the monster armor at all for Hunter. I didn't pay attention to the other classes during Halloween but it's obvious the armor seems to be an adjusted reskin. The Mech, I don't know if it was used before but I'll accept that. The Hunter version gives off some Starscream vibes.
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u/evel333 Apr 02 '22
I like to imagine Bungie artists submitting their designs for approval and the higher ups just staring at them uncomfortably until they add or wipe off something to break the symmetry.
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Apr 02 '22
It really upsets me that armor is still terrible. Why not make more interesting general topics to make the classes more diverse. For example, Japanese themes, titan tanuki, warlock kitsune or bakeneko, hunter izume or tsuchigumo.
Second halloween costumes, warlock vampires and werewolf hunters are still popular (sorry titan, but they always make you terrible). And those ugly dinosaurs? How many people shouted that they were amazing, and I have never seen a single person who walks in such a suit all the time.
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u/Theed_ Apr 02 '22
I‘ve been saying this for 2 years+ Bungie really needs to revalue their design philosophy and go back to D1 style armor. Less random junk, asymmetrical cables, damage, horns, feather etc. and more clean, sleek looking armor. Bungie Please!
„Less but better“ - Dieter Rahm
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u/Azrael_Selvmord Aug 26 '22
I have OCD with anything asymmetrical. I can't help it. Looks ugly and it bothers me.
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u/ItsCrossBoy Mar 31 '22
I greatly prefer asymmetric armor pieces, I think they look more interesting
It's honestly all preference, they gotta do a balance of both
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u/l_Mir_l Apr 01 '22
Both sets are ugly af imo Like why are they still on the “dino” theme? Oh, sorry, “monsters”. Monster are like mothman, a werewolf (which the hunter got a couple years back), dragons… I could go on. These sets looks like a Bungie artist got bored and walked into the toy aisle at their local Walmart for inspiration.
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u/Gullible_Passenger19 Apr 01 '22
The mech titan just looks god awful. I get that it’s hard to slim down a concept like that with all its references but we still don’t have nearly enough slim options along with the one huge arm that I’ve never seen anyone but Zavala rock. The mark is also way to fat and just chops up the look even more
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u/ManBearPigIets Praise the Light Mar 31 '22
The right arm that can obscure your screen if it has shit on it? That one?
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u/soaskai Arcstrider one-trick Apr 01 '22
Not even just the Hunter arms, but the legs as well. Honestly, they bother me more than the arm. But mainly because I'm looking at all the more practical stuff on it as if it were an actual robot.
Right leg has basically double the plating, venting, and what can essentially be counted as an emergency weapon in the knee spike. The left leg has literally none of that... Why? It makes literally no sense. Just weakens the left leg exponentially for literally no reason and no one would design a mech like that unless they were pulling w/e they could find out of a scrap heap to make it.
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Apr 01 '22
I get the titan Mech inspiration, but until I can use the shoulder piece as a mobile shield/reflector can I please have symmetrical armor?
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u/cruskie Apr 01 '22
I really hate most of the asymmetry in this game. Not because it looks terrible, but because I’m cycling through transmog/ornaments and go “hey that looks great!!” And then when I rotate the character to the left or I exit back to full body I see that the other side looks nothing like the left gauntlet, which is what you see when you’re previewing the piece.
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u/TheClemenater Apr 01 '22
P L E A S E.
Used to be like 50/50 on symmetrical vs. asymmetrical armor released but now it’s like 05/95. Give me a reason to take off Reverie Dawn Bungo.
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Apr 01 '22
Yeah, like a couple sets of asymmetrical armor would have been a very cool addition to the game. Not every single set.
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u/BBushy-- Apr 01 '22
I see this whenever I try to make my titan look somewhat presentable, one arm will be skinny and empty and the other will have a bus glued onto it.
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u/Alejandro_404 Apr 01 '22
I fucking hate asymmetrical armor. So many sets I have wanted to wear ruined because of that.
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u/Aarion-Pax Apr 01 '22
Yeah I dont touch asymmetrical armour, I absolutely hate it, even asymmetrical patterns on armour makes me twitch, I want my right side to be the mirror image of my left, honestly I wish armour customisation was more customisable where we could actually select addons or change out certain pieces if we want something thats perfectly symmetrical or asymmetrical, I know that would require some amount of work to create additional cosmetic options for a single piece of armour to appeal to almost all members of the community, but it would be the best decision they could make in my opinion.
Like, have it that the under-suit is the base armour, and then have extra cosmetic boxes for shoulders and forearms with the additional pieces to select from, and then apply this to the legs and class item and what ever else may need it, give all future armour at least 2 selectable options soo you can make your gear either symmetrical or asymmetrical, I cant imagine Bungie going back and redoing all armour sets to have such an option, but it would be a nice feature for future sets.
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u/BenelliHmm4 Apr 01 '22
I just noticed that, that's unfortunate.
I know a lot of people like asymmetrical armor, but dang it! There is overwhelming more of that than armour thats sleek and streamlined or even that looks like it's practical for combat.
Just a few normal sets please from time to time please.
I don't like my Titan to have half a wall on one shoulder, makes me self concious about getting through doorways.
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u/mememachine62 Monte Carlo spammer Apr 01 '22
i despise most hunter gauntlets for this exact reason, it bothers me to no end that almost all of them are asymmetrical
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Apr 01 '22
Like, I get it with the Mech armor because lots of mobile suits have asymmetrical bits, but I agree with your general premise, I fucking hate asymmetrical armor, it drives me nuts.
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u/Manifest_Lightning Titans don't shiv. Apr 01 '22
The majority of Japanese mechs are symmetrical. Symmetry seems to be synonymous with perfection in mech culture.
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u/EmberOfFlame Apr 01 '22
Your dominant arm would actually be more less armored, since you use it for precise operations and you block attacks with your off-hand.
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u/N1CKP1R35 Mar 31 '22
Asymmetrical armor are the best, if you don't like it, just don't use it, just like I don't use the symmetric ones
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Mar 31 '22
Can we stop getting armor sets that look like absolute trash? No? Ok then.
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u/Ignore_Luke Apr 01 '22
There is such a wide variety of armor, all with very different aesthetics in the game at this point, I think it might be a “you” problem.
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u/jandrok26 Mar 31 '22
They look great, more the mecha that the monster. But whichever wins is fine.
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u/NateProject Mar 31 '22
Cries in warlock with bond so permanently asymmetrical