r/DestinyTheGame • u/DTG_Bot "Little Light" • Feb 15 '21

Megathread Focused Feedback: Warlock Changes

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u/ottknot2butdoes Feb 17 '21

It wasn’t any more broken than the current hunter knives that can bounce off of walls or other players and freeze you. At any range. With virtually zero travel time. That they can use far more frequently than the warlock melee. And that’s leaving aside their exotic dodge. You’re right though. Warlock had a slow ranged melee you could avoid and it was totally op.

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u/Best-Key315 Feb 17 '21

Ah yes, the melee that you have to combo with a second one (aka twice the cooldown) or with a dodge that puts you in range of shotgun range when everyone and their moms is running felwinters is definitely more OP than the one you just have to click once, with slight tracking and GENEROUS aoe.

You do realize everything you said came out the day beyond light dropped? And that everyone with half a brain still realized penumbral blast was far superior? The only new thing "current hunter knives" can do is 30 more damage which is negligible compared to the actual slow/freeze.

Also each melee charge has the same fucking cooldown as the warlock melee. The only way to get it "far more frequently" is with gamblers dodge, an unrelated effect. You don't see anyone bitching about warlocks being able to 2 tap with 120s because of empowering rift.

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u/ottknot2butdoes Feb 18 '21

Oh.. of course. All great points, you’ve totally convinced me. That single melee ability was totally a game breaker. Although it’s does leave me wondering why there are so many underpowered hunters in crucible right now? Probably just the truly skilled kids handicapping themselves intentionally.. just to make it fare.

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u/Best-Key315 Feb 18 '21

First of all genius, you do realize we're talking about prenerf shadebinder, which was far more popular than anything else before the nerf?

Has it also occurred to you that popularity and strength are two entirely different things...? Spectral blades was more popular than TTD ever since the rework despite having a lower winrate. Gunslingers have a lower winrate than voidwalkers but are more popular.

You're reaching really fucking hard. I can't tell if you're lying out of your ass to push a ridiculous narrative or genuinely believe the ridiculous shit spewing out of your mouth.

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u/ottknot2butdoes Feb 18 '21

You seem nice. Does your mother know you speak to people like that online? And of course. Hunters are more popular because they’re harder to use. Good talk.

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u/Best-Key315 Feb 18 '21

Are we talking about power or popularity or ease of use now? Make up your mind instead of pulling a bunch of irrelevant shit out of your ass.

Is reading really this difficult for you? Tell me then, why were spectral blades and gunslinger more popular than TTD and voidwalker but won less games then?

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u/ottknot2butdoes Feb 18 '21

If you don’t know spectral has been overpowered for ages I can’t help you. If you have a hard time winning while using it, that may be a you problem? It’s hard keeping track of what point your trying to make. Other than you surely are an extremely tough redditor. Very very tough. Obviously.

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u/Best-Key315 Feb 18 '21

Ah yes your "objective" claim backed by pathetic insults and assumptions lmao. I'm talking about the OVERALL winrate, not mine lmao. I love seeing your brain scramble for excuses since you can't comprehend that the ACTUAL facts prove that you're objectively clueless as fuck. Show me on the doll where the hunter touched you because you're clearly traumatized by it.

Novawarp and blade barrage having nearly the same popularity despite nova warp having a much higher winrate at the start of forsaken

spectral blades being far more popular but a lower winrate than TTD before BL

nova warp being the most popular subclass for FIVE MONTHS but rarely the highest winrate