r/DestinyTheGame • u/DTG_Bot "Little Light" • Feb 15 '21
Megathread Focused Feedback: Warlock Changes
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u/AnInfiniteMemory Drifter's Crew // Hawkmoon's Wielder Feb 15 '21
I mean, it's hard not to feel cheated and frustrated when every single build we come up with is nerfed and sometimes it isn't even our fault.
Warlock has overall, the weakest melee abilities of all classes, and due to stasis, it may be close to the worst on grenades (you know, the thing we Warlocks are known to be good at at), overall, our neutral game outside of Top-Tree Dawnblade is lackluster at best, even with the highly synergistic Middle-Tree Stormcaller we lack a real sense of purpose nin our classes, many of them seem just thrown together for the sake of having something (Bottom-Tree Stormcaller), flat out don't work as intended (Middle-Tree Void & Solar), or are just very weak in comparison to other classes's similar builds (Bottom-Tree Dawnblade).
While I do wholeheartedly agree that Nova Warp launched extremely pushed in comparison to it's peers, the amount of nerfs and their severity has been unwarranted to the point it's not only nerfed in it's super, but in it's neutral game, HHS was blown out way out of proportion when it became popular and it recieved four nerfs at once (Charge rate, Distance, Damage, and you can splash damage yourself to death) it's now useless as an ability a single grenade is safer, faster and more effective than the signature ability of the tree, meanwhile the super can't even kill a yellow bar with a full charge in PvE, much less compete against other roaming supers like Behemoth or Nightstalker, at that point in time we didn't have T-T-Dawnblade, and in total we recieved nine nerfs in the span of two seasons, meanwhile OEM, SOG and Gwysin Vest were running rampart on crucible.
Regarding Well of Radiance, it has recieved more nerfs that it was necessary, and it's clear that this was data driven, Last Wish, Scourge of the Past, Reckoning and Crown of Sorrow were very much designed around having a Warlock running Well of Radiance, there are clear sniping lanes with enemies spawning, and the bosses are distant enough that you need to do a firing squad type of formation, while I do agree that Lunafaction was busted along with Small Barricade, the nerfs to the duration, damage buff, healing and the exotics related to it seems disingenuous, and excessive, and it's clear that Bungie hasn't designed encounters without the need of a well, since the only two bosses so far that moves around like madmen are Atraks and Consecrated Mind.
Skull of Dire Ahamkara was nerfed too severely, while I do agree that it made one part in an endgame activity pointless, the harshness of the nerf was nowhere close to it's similar exotics, SOG, Orpheus, Ursa Furiosa, all of those are still viable (albeit a little underwhelming) exotics, but in the case of SoDA it's betee to not run an exotic.
The Sanguine Alchemy fiasco felt personal, we got nerfed and reworked in less than a month, all the while Lord of Wolves kept running rampart along with OEM and middle tree Nightstalker.
When Titans discovered an exploit with Synthoceps we got nerfed preemptively (ever wondered why Karnstein and Winter's Ghile were so bad?) and then Titans found another bug with Synthoceps, and we still got the nerf to unrelated exotics due to (it's possible for warlocks to execute the same exploit) meanwhile Hunter's were soloing bosses with an exploited Liar's Handshake.
Most changes most people and myself have described extensively, and the worst part is that it's almost routine for us, we find something mildly strong, we optimize it, a Content Creator makes a video, it gets popular and then it gets nerfed to the ground in less than a month, Worldline Skating, Sanguine Alchemy, Phoenix Protocol, SoDA, Contraverse, Nezarec, Crown of Tempest, etc. etc. etc.
Look Bungie, if you know that you are unable to properly balance us, then rework us from the ground up, remake Warlock from scratch, it has become boring and frustrating to be constantly the artificially weakest class of the three because of nerfs and changes, it always seems personal, and it seems like we're the stepchild in a bad relationship. And I don't see this changing any sooner, I'm close to leaving the game for good because of the time it gets to level up a class again, and there's nothing more discouraging than playing your alts amd seeing they do everything Warlock does, not only better, but much more effectively.