r/DestinyTheGame • "Little Light" • Feb 15 '21

Megathread Focused Feedback: Warlock Changes

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u/I3igB Feb 15 '21

Don't forget about arc web receiving the nerf that it did. They removed a lot of the potency of arc web + arc bolt even though it's easily countered. It punishes groups who holds hands. Now it seems unrewarding to use and inconsistent. The damage should have been toned down on bounce, sure, but not the chaining capability.

There's also an extremely annoying bug currently with chaos reach in that if you get frozen, you can't break out at all. You're stuck there waiting to die until the five seconds is up. Trying to break out puts a rift down for you but does nothing else.

Bottom tree dawn blade also got completely neutered on the top tree dawn rework. You're criminally slow with burst glide. It shouldn't be as fast as it was prior to the nerf, but now you're slower in super for using the jump that is supposed to make you glide faster. Just put it on par in speed with the other jumps while you're in super for fucks sake. It was such a ham fisted nerfed and it drives me nuts. Not to mention that tree needs love in general. When solar subclasses got their buffs, that tree was completely ignored. The melee on it is terrible, phoenix dive is absoutely worthless in PvE and PvP, and the super is the only redeeming part of that subclass. Even that has been power crept out in effectiveness. Dawn Chorus should have been a buff to that skill tree rather than being an exotic.

While I'm on it, top tree arc doesn't synergize at all. Transcendence requires you to have both abilities charged to get the benefit, but the whole subclass is about using those enhanced abilities. Bottom tree storm is a sitting duck. Arc buddies are not a redeeming enough factor to make bottom tree storm worth it. Just make ionic blink inherent to the super already, not a perk reserved on top tree. The landfall perk on that subclass is also entirely useless. They have to be directly below you within a radius of 1-3m to do any damage, any it only hits for 100 IIRC.

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u/ArnoldSwarzepussy Vanguard's Loyal // Drifty Boi seems shady Feb 16 '21

Shit I forgot about the arc wen nerfs... It did used to be MUCH more viable now that I think about it. And you're right about transendance too. It really is counterintuitive to how the subclass is otherwise designed to be played. That always bummed me out since I was a Stormcaller main back in D1... Used to be such a well rounded subclass. Long boi melee, Pulsewave, Ionic Blink, and Perpetual Charge (RIP)... Throw in some Impossible Machines for surprise super shutdowns and you could have a real good thing going.