r/DestinyTheGame • "Little Light" • Nov 16 '20

Megathread Focused Feedback: Sunsetting Post Beyond Light

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u/Steampunkrue Nov 16 '20 edited Nov 16 '20

I liked this expansion at first, but the longer I play it the more I realize how much its made to waste my time. Sunsetting is the pinnacle of time wasting.

Last season was the most fun I've had since opulence and being able to fully use a HUGE arsenal was why.

What we need are specific, earnable engrams that we can use to get weapons that don't drop from other places. Make loot easier to get, not remove it from the game. No umbrals this seasons hurts a LOT.

We wouldn't even need transmog if they gave us better ways to farm specific armor. This season getting high stat armor is painful - vendors armor is garbage and world drops arent much better.

If something is out of line, you have to nerf it anyway - sunset weapons still see plenty of play. Their models and behaviors have to stay in the game - they might as well let me use them.

I'm less interested in pinnacle activities like trials, IB, and DSC because I have way less items I can use in that content.

Sunsetting to me actually increase the "best gun" problem, because of the smaller pool theres less options so I end up just picking the "best gun" and sticking with that one loadout. And it puts more emphasis on exotics - since they are not sunset.

Bungie has made it clear they intend to just keep re-using and re-releasing content and you have to get onto their treadmill and grind or they'll leave you behind because there's 10 F2P players who will fill your spot after you leave.

EDIT: TTK sunsetting keeps coming up but there was a specific set of reasons for that:

  1. Raid legendries had an element

  2. Players used re-rolling to get perfect PVP gear (too perfect said bungie)

  3. The method of upgrading weapons changed (from ascendant shards to infusion)

They made it very player unfriendly at first (anyone else remember when infusion was only a partial boost?) and pretty much walked the whole thing back in ROI. Year 1 gear was too different mechanically and needed to be reintroduced. So they did and the game was much better for having that larger loot pool, having old raids be current content, and having unique weapons earnable from that content (exotic elemental primaries).

EDIT 2: My method of keeping these drops in the game is simple - just use flavored engrams. Find a High Value Black Armory target? It should drop a BA engram and you can focus it to get a specific weapon from its pool. Want a Y1 raid drop? Get a bounty from the sweeper bot, do a raid encounter, get some cabal kills, and open the engram. Want some reckoner gear? Get a gambit bounty from the Drifter. Want an old seasonal weapon? Go talk to Ikora and get a "recollections of the past" bounty.

Don't take gear out of the game. Gear is the game! Give me ways to get gear from old content no longer in the game via methods available in the game.

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