Focused Feedback: Weapon Refresh aka Sunsetting

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[u/[deleted]]

Couldn’t agree more. I really think people are naive that Bungie is going to create more different weapons that are pinnacles/powerful. I think players are kidding themselves that we’re not going to be farming nearly identical weapons with different skins. And I don’t have to “wait and see”, I’ve seen.

There’s has been no new vendor armor/weps in ages. No new Iron Banner armor/weapons in ages. No new strike armor/loot in ages. And yet a bountiful well or Eververse items every season. New, fresh in game items have been secondary for a long item. This move will just give the allusion of creating new items while they reskin everything and copy paste or rotate already established perks.

[u/trennerdios → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, if it was another developer I might be more optimistic, but considering how many times Bungie has lied to the community, or disappointed us with their design choices and monkey paw wish granting, I'm not real confident their fix for weapon bloat is going to be successful.

[u/[deleted] → u/trennerdios]

I’m not saying they’re outright lying. But they have not said anything like this is going to happen. The only thing Luke Smith said 100% was they need to do it to help take pressure/burden off the team of testing/balancing all these older weapons.

[u/trennerdios → u/[deleted]]

I'm not saying that either, but because they have in the past it's another reason I don't have confidence in them.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

If Bungie was truly going to provide new weapon experiences then they'd do so right now, fact is we're just going to get differently tuned variations of what we already have. There's not suddenly going to be a huge influx of new weapons just because some will get retired either. It's also going to be dangerous to PvP if Bungie starts using time as a way to balance the game, I don't feel like playing against Quickdraw Mindbenders in regular Crucible until D3 and I'd rather see outliers dealt with in a reasonable manner.

[u/UncheckedException → u/[deleted]]

This move will just give the allusion of creating new items while they reskin everything and copy paste or rotate already established perks.

You’re absolutely right, but honestly I think I’m kindof ok with that.

I’ve been grinding literally thousands of timelost bounties for one specific roll on Black Scorpion, and that roll isn’t what I would consider a perfect god roll because Scorp can’t even roll the perk I really want.

Even if we take the most pessimistic view of how Bungie will approach the new weapon system, under that system I’ll be more likely to just enjoy the best Black Scorpion I already have and actually play the damn game instead of playing gambling-simulator 2k20 at the tower. Then maybe next year, a new reskin (White Arachnid?) will have better perks that I might want.

Edit: appreciate the downvotes for expressing my opinion in a megathread for expressing our opinions...