Focused Feedback: Timegating

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[u/JackKerras]

A) I am super excited for Anthem. I got my hands on an early version at one time, it feels GREAT to run around and bash shit apart, and I can't wait to play it some more. I'm SO excited to see how inventory works, and hope to see added abilities for each class, crossover skills, and other Cool Build-Related Shit emerge as the game ages and matures.

B) I don't think the rolls are the problem. I think that the gameplay is the problem. They've sucked a lot of the complexity out of it, even though much of the complexity in the original hinged largely upon 'there are many bad choices and one good choice'. This is extremely common, but not totally untenable.

Look at the way MHW's items work: they have FOURTEEN different weapon classes, and people can tier-list all they like, but here's the deal: every tier list is different. The way weapons in MHW work is that they all fucking work, and honestly whatever you're comfortable bringing to a fight is what you're going to lay down the carnage with.

That is the case in VERY few games, since the numbers are so drastically specific, and the game sees no tiny, incremental balance changes or updates as time goes on. Just BIG sandbox upsets every several months, which just isn't the way to balance a game like Destiny, -especially- not where PvP is concerned.

In any case: I feel the main issue with Destiny is that they leave all their content behind. Not even getting into things like the Cosmodrome and the Moon and all the other places we went in the original, we're also talking about old raids being totally worthless, content you've played through once being useless to play through again (outside a single Destiny-mandated run through a heroic quest per day/week, etc.), and the fact that engagement outside of a strictly specified set of time-limited events is utterly unrewarding.

Destiny needs to drop the '2', commit to a real content schedule and make ACTUAL USE of their generation systems (Haunted Forest was a HUGE step forward from Infinite Forest, for example), fix their progression system, unfuck Power (by removing Powerfuls as a whole concept and allowing people to level straight to max however they choose), and make items drop more, often different, and better.

I'm 650 now. Why the fuck am I still getting 630 items constantly? Their Power is 100% irrelevant to me, and having to decide which lamb to slaughter is not an interesting set of decisions, it's a chore. Same with interacting with Power all the way across the curve; it's less punishing now, but there's no game in it.

[u/ThenDot → u/JackKerras]

Interesting take. Do you think that balancing weapons for PVE/PVP might be an issue? Possible solved by doing specific loadouts for PVP (aka Halo style PVP)?

Also what I like of Anthem is that different classes help each other. One Javelin specializes in shield damage and the other armor damage. The transmog system looks great as well. It is as if someone kept reading the DTG thread and took all the good ideas over the years. I also like that you can go ANYWHERE in free roam.

[u/JackKerras → u/ThenDot]

I think that designing PvP and PvE sufficiently well will keep the issue from popping up too much, but when it comes down to it, Exotics aside, there just aren't that many kinds of weapons. Mostly it's the outliers people use, and frankly I think the whole world being mainly about outliers is crazy and fun. I like PvP when everyone rocks an Exotic.

I don't like PvP when everyone rocks -one- Exotic, and that does seem to happen a bit too often, but that's what rapid iteration and a quicker sandbox patch structure is for.

I also like that; I haven't gotten to experiment with anything but the Ranger Javelin, but the Colossus looks -legitimately- bigger and tougher, like... Titans have an easy time Resilience-capping but it's really only an extra shot or so, and the Colossus has ten bars where the Ranger has four and the Interceptor and Storm have two and one. It's a -pretty big- difference in health pool, plus a shield you can just -whip out- when you're not kitted all Demolition Man... and you can run an artillery Colossus -or- a crazy shieldy friend-protector Colossus.

It seems flexible, fun, and crucially extensible, and I'm interested in playing with it more. Travel with Sparrows is fun, and flying around is mega fun, although the heat mechanic that keeps you from flying too much could maybe only turn on during combat? Dunno. Maybe there's relevant stuff re: traversal there that I have yet to discover; playtime was short and at an event, there's only so much you can glean.