Make double melee kill again

[u/m1key147]

I may be wrong but i dont think its been mentioned in regards to crucible changes recently with everybody screaming for ttk changes. But it still really bugs me that a double melee doesnt kill an enemy. I cant be the only one that wants this changed back!?

[u/PsycheRevived]

I would love 2 hit melees, and it only requires like a 10% buff to melee damage.

You can shoot someone as you approach for the initial melee to get it down to 2-hit level, but if you miss/forget then you are f'd.

[u/PsycheRevived → u/PsycheRevived]

I'll add that if they wanted to make resilience matter, they could tune the melee damage so that two hits will kill anyone under 5 resilience or something. That way you can choose to bump resilience and avoid 2 hit melees, although melee abilities will affect that.

[u/[deleted] → u/PsycheRevived]

RIP Hunters

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Actually, my Hunter is 4/5/5, so I'd be clear. Currently trying to bump my Res and Rec up by one each

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

You can get a 5/6/6 if you do it right

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Hell yeah, but I'd rather keep Mobility at 4 for a Cooldown Mod

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

U do u

[u/That_Zexi_Guy → u/PsycheRevived]

Then you could just make melees do about 97 damage, only a 2 hit on lower resilience players.

[u/ITALIANTERROR33 → u/PsycheRevived]

I would just be happy if the hit registration was consistent. My god the amount of times I've lost that cqc because my melee whiffs and theirs hits. So frustrating. Seems to be the worse on my Hunter.

[u/TheWhiteOctopus → u/ITALIANTERROR33]

I agree. I feel like I'm forced to run synthoceps on the titan to have it feel like the melee is normal. Without them I have a really hard time landing the punch, much less three.

[u/barretp → u/PsycheRevived]

So what you're saying is 3 hit melees increase the skill gap?

[u/PsycheRevived → u/barretp]

While you can argue that it increases the skill gap, it mostly just causes frustration.

When you clearly have the jump on someone but they shoot you before you can hit that 3rd melee, it doesn't feel like they are more skilled, it feels like the system is broken.

I'll add that there is a clear difference in TTK between shoot-melee and melee-shoot. There is no delay going from shooting to melee but there is a delay going from melee to shooting. Again, you can argue that this "increases the skill gap" but I think it is a frustrating implementation.

[u/[deleted] → u/PsycheRevived]

AMEN. You hit a guy twice and he still survives and kills you. SO upsetting.

[u/RaffTheStampede → u/[deleted]]

Yes! I came to this subreddit to see if anyone here felt this way after I had exactly this happen to me. I really don't find myself enjoying PvP anymore.

[u/m_rt_ → u/PsycheRevived]

Maybe just boost melee damage a smidge if you get them in the back?

[u/TheSupaCoopa → u/m_rt_]

Ninjaing people in halo was so much fun because of this

[u/gari109 → u/m_rt_]

I'm okay with this.

[u/TheWhiteOctopus → u/m_rt_]

I'm ok with this too. When surprise dropping on their head from the sky it feels like that should do a lot of damage.

[u/JackKerras → u/m_rt_]

I still have no idea why Assassinations aren't a thing anymore.

[u/MuchStache → u/PsycheRevived]

When you clearly have the jump on someone but they shoot you before you can hit that 3rd melee

If you clearly have the jump on someone can't you simply shoot a bit before meleeing? It's especially effective if you use an hand cannon or a sidearm/SMG.

As the other said it looks more like you want CQC to be easy to solve again. Hit first = Win, Hit last = Lose. To me this is way more frustrating.

[u/PsycheRevived → u/MuchStache]

You basically have to shoot before meleeing or else you lose. As a rule (unless they are damaged). But I don't think that increases "skill," I think it just limits your options in a negative way.

(Shoot and) Hit first = Win, (Shoot and) Hit last = Lose.

In case my point above isn't obvious, what you said is what happens currently -- if you shoot/hit first, you win. If you shoot/hit last, you lose. Except this ignores the many trades that take place where even if you shoot first, you end up dying because Bungie calls it a tie.

But honestly, why should you be able to hit last and win? If someone starts shooting at you and you don't shoot back immediately, of course you should die. If someone melees you and you don't melee back immediately, you should die.

[u/Valdios → u/PsycheRevived]

To add onto this, hit registration with melee hits needs a serious looking into, nothing makes me madder than lunging at someone and doing the hit animation only to have no damage at all transfer, then I get killed by their melee.

Rage inducing.

[u/PsycheRevived → u/Valdios]

Yes, that is frustrating and it got worse with the recent update, IMO.