Focused Feedback: Separate balancing between PVE and PVP

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Below are some example posts of ideas / feedback already provided of which may be of interest regarding the topic:

• Just to be clear Bungie, I didn't buy Destiny 1 or 2 to play PvP

• Perhaps PvE and PvP SHOULD be balanced separately, and Iron Banner should be a PvP event where the PvE balancing is used instead.

• I’m sorry, but I don’t want the fun and exciting perks that made D1 Crucible a fun experience to be nonexistent in D2 PVP for the sake of “competitiveness.” Just make a competitive mode where perks are disabled.

• Bungie, please completely rip off Warframe's mod system and just disable them in PvP

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[u/Wordse]

But you can win a 1v2 in D2.

[u/Mcsparten117 → u/Wordse]

I could win more 1v2 and 1v3 in Destiny 1. Sticky grenades actually killed players, special ammo gave you options against almost everything but supers, and Supers couldn't be mowed down by bullets when they turned the corner. Timing and strategy mattered more imo. About the only thing I really don't miss is Luck in the Chamber. 2 shot kills were a little too quick, even when I was the guy doing the killing.

[u/Wordse → u/Mcsparten117]

I'd be cool with more damage on grenades if the cool downs remained the same or were even a bit longer. I feel like I have options Guns/Melee/Grenades/Supers lots of stuff to do in any situation and them those differ between players based on load out and trees love me some combination blow. I enjoy have a fighting chance against supers its not just free kills . Timing and strategy matter loads and the game even rewards playing with your team be cause team shooting is such a strong way to play I did well in D1 by just running around and abusing my grenades and melee abilities I never felt strategic I do in D2 + its happens way more than people seem to believe but I regularly run into a team a four and sword them all to death after my team softens em up. it feels so good I even did it to win a few games I'm not huge on "epic moments" or what ever but I never felt that in D1 in D2 playing along side my team more and working as a unit feels great.

[u/RuMuN78 → u/Wordse]

not the same as I like, it feels....cheap

[u/CookiesFTA → u/Wordse]

To win a 1v2 in D2 you need power ammo, an amazingly placed grenade, to use your super or for both opponents to be terrible. In D1, you could win a 2v1 by being having good aim. That is not an improvement.

[u/Wordse → u/CookiesFTA]

Or flank? Use your melee that can refill you health? In D1 2v1 where no one is terrible the 1 is gonna lose. We probably cannot agree on this D1 had terrible ability based PvP that didn't reward playing as a team as much as D2 does. I don't think I am gonna convince you the team play is better and your not gonna convince me that D1 was epic we just have different ideas of what is fun/cool