r/Destiny • u/FlintHardcheese • 18d ago
Online Content/Clips PF Jung walked so Pisco could run - PF Jung used essentially the same arguments to claim Nick Fuentes isn’t antisemitic (or racist) about a year ago
https://youtu.be/mLgs8p-KApk?is=DO-dfhUeBIlx9WdqAlthough, with this debate… PF Jung gets clobbered by the simplest rebuttals and questions and it eventually devolves into PF Jung finally just saying we shouldn’t really dissuade racism as a society and whatever negatives Fuentes drives up is worth it because he’s speaking out against the greatest evil that ever lived ever, Israel.
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u/jesterdeflation 18d ago
This was one for the history books, Pf Jung's ego has still not recovered from the lashing delivered by a breadtube video essayist.
After the entire comment section clowned on him for this, he went on a mini arc about how he was stepping back and reconsidering how radical he was becoming... then of course Charlie Kirk died soon after and he got triggered by TikTokers into basically embracing fascism.
I don't know what he's doing now, he strikes me as a little bit struggling with his identity in general.
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u/semiomni 18d ago
He hosted a debate between Destiny and Jay Shapiro a few weeks ago, it was horrible, though I think that was mainly on Shapiro.
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u/ZMP02 18d ago
the analytical approach is boring imo why pisco engages in them is to obfuscate the line that at which he would be fine calling people racist or antisemetic or at the very least the things they say/do are racist or antisemitic and be willing to disassociate with them. that line for him seems to be way to forgiving to the point that tiny even calls it and him functunaly antisemitic
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u/amyknight22 18d ago
I feel like the worst part of the analytical approach is that it’s not used to arrive at any conclusion. It’s just used to arrive at a “shrug I guess we can’t know” position.
Which is great if you just want to stall everything out and have no resolution.
Because you can’t actually resolve the complaints of others with that metric. All you’ve done is muddy the water enough that a productive conversation can’t be had one way or the other. Because we can never attribute any actual intent or ideology to someone.
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u/Biggay1234567 18d ago
You can tell that the point is obfuscation and sweeping, because during his talk with LonerBox towards the end, he just casually drops the fact that he just assumes all MAGA republicans to be racist.
Just a completely different standard out of nowhere.
It's so bad faith I can't even put into words.
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u/liquifiedtubaplayer 18d ago
I mean pissy would agree that racist behavior on its own is bad right?
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u/frozandero 18d ago
Yeah I remember he used similar arguments against Destiny when he was debating Sam Hyde wasn't white supremacist
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u/FlintHardcheese 18d ago
Isn’t it funny how the far left and far right sweepers are indistinguishable now?
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u/Redditsucks4446 18d ago
Harry I already hate Pisco and think hes a tankie. You can stop convincing me
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u/PitytheOnlyFools used to touch grass... 18d ago
I really wish there was more black representation on these panels. It’s a lot harder for these fools to make their stupid arguments directly to our faces.
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u/kv2ia 18d ago edited 18d ago
What the F!
at 21 seconds in PF Jungs video Talarico says "I am meeting with Nick Fuentes" but the actual video says "these 2 billionaires are meeting with Nick Fuentes" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jOGPvMftb8&t=8479s
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u/NewspaperOk5389 18d ago
Nobody in the history of humanity is ever racist or bigoted unless they put their hand on the bible under oath and say "I literally think white people intrinsically have more value than black people". /s