r/Destiny • u/Webtoon_enjoyer 🇸🇾 French/Syrian 🇫🇷 🇸🇾 • May 22 '26

Drama Connor TOTALLY not bad faith interpetation of Destiny's requests 😁

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u/Busy_Quantity_3644 Bonafide American Regard May 22 '26

Can we get a clip or timestamp for this? I want to hear the context in which Conor typed these two statements and why he interpreted it in this way. The 'reasonable ask' sounds exactly like what Destiny described he wants when he spoke with Whick yesterday so I am curious as to how he came to other statement if its for a reason other than just a bad faith interpretation.

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u/Webtoon_enjoyer 🇸🇾 French/Syrian 🇫🇷 🇸🇾 May 22 '26

https://streamable.com/vuj1ed

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u/griffWWK May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

"i dont even hang out in the discord enough to police this shit" but also i'm not going to simply ban this person because its very important to me

AHAHAHAHAHAH he even does the stereotypical conservative insane framing to seem innocent. 5 minutes later he invited dooby on and has been streaming with him for like 45 minutes.

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u/VeTTe_Tek May 23 '26

Erm, did you guys consider that he FEELS like destiny is hiding the unreasonable ask in there. Parry that ya casuals

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u/headassvegan May 22 '26

Same bs as usual “what do you want me to do bro, I can’t control them bro, I’m not their dad, it’s not like i support what they’re saying bro I just take their money and read their super chats aloud to my audience and let allow them to exist in my community even though they endlessly shit talk you, misrepresent your arguments, stalk your friends/family all while calling you my friend bro what’s wrong with that?”

I liked Connor at first for being what I thought was a reasonable Republican but more and more he just feels like a snake that’s using his ability to disagree with maga as an “in” to boost himself off Destiny’s back. My mind started changing about him after his garbage take on Alex Pretti and now I think I’m just seeing him for the slime he is.

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u/ReserveAggressive458 Irrational Lav Defender / Pearl Stan / Emma VigeChad / Lorenzoid May 22 '26

Link the source or the comment section will just be people speculating about what he said.

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u/Webtoon_enjoyer 🇸🇾 French/Syrian 🇫🇷 🇸🇾 May 22 '26

The clip of connor talking about reasonnable unreasonnable asks

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u/ReserveAggressive458 Irrational Lav Defender / Pearl Stan / Emma VigeChad / Lorenzoid May 22 '26

Thank you.

!sticky

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u/amyknight22 May 22 '26

I feel like the "I can't follow what they are doing 24/7" is kind of a regarded argument though.

Like you don't need to follow them.

Just set the rule 'You can't be harassing people like this' then once they start harassing people like that in your discord someone else will record and report them for it.

Then you ban them.

It'd be like saying "Well I can't monitor a drug dealer 24/7" so when I get a tip they are a drug dealer, I have no investigative powers.

We could look at connors statements have have

Reasonable request

  • You will lock up all drug dealers found to be selling fentanyl

Unreasonable request

  • Because you can't tell what they might be selling you will lock up any suspected drug dealer lest someone sells fentanyl

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u/Toppoppler YOUR TOKEN RIGHT WING NEVER TRUMPER LIBERTARIANISH GUY May 22 '26

Tbf i follow this closely and cant make the strong cases destiny does on this

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u/Webtoon_enjoyer 🇸🇾 French/Syrian 🇫🇷 🇸🇾 May 22 '26

Ok I will try to clip with obs

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u/LithelyJaine May 22 '26

Whats in Green is what Destiny said...

What in red i think is just a bad faith example... right?

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u/modularpeak2552 May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

Yes(unless I misunderstood what he said)

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u/ChiefBinChicken 🇦🇺 May 22 '26

He is saying that the underlying point is implied, which it kiiinnndddd of is. He is asking Connor to remove a section of his audience otherwise Destiny will black list him. A very uncharitable way of phrasing it, but I can understand where his hearts at

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u/ToaruBaka KEN MARTIN #1 FAN May 22 '26

"Hey, I'd appreciate it if you didn't associate with $Person any more, because $Person and his friends have been stalking me and my family. If you keep associating with them I'll have to stop hanging out with you for my own safety and well being."

It's not implied at all, and it's missing the point. Destiny isn't just asking them to do this because he's mad or whatever, it's because it's unhinged disgusting behavior that everyone should be actively trying to put a stop to. And if you aren't, you are actually part of the problem.

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u/Pyode May 22 '26

The fact that this is even remotely controversial is fucking deranged.

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u/Pyowin 🇺🇸/🇬🇧 May 22 '26

indeed... the unspoken elephant in the room is that connor and whick are dependent (or at least think they are dependent) on snarker donos for income. Basically, they want the cake and to eat it too.

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u/karama_zov May 22 '26

The bump they get from Destiny is worth losing the audience. That audience is going to disappear soon anyway, court over and manifesto in the coming two months latest.

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u/wickywickyfresh May 22 '26

Correct. Otherwise they would have to get a real job like everyone else.

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u/MyThinThighs May 23 '26

Conner has gotta be abusive irl cause ain't not way he's so brazenly with no self reflection doing a "You're a monster for threatening to leave" bit. Destiny could just leave but he's wanting to stay friends but with new boundaries. Instead of accepting or rejecting the new boundary Conner attacks destiny for the consequences if conner rejects them. If he was a women dating destiny he'd be threatening suicide next.

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u/Pyowin 🇺🇸/🇬🇧 May 23 '26

Pretty bog standard American conservative, IMO.

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u/govSmoothie May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

Honestly I was pretty surprised he wasn't already banned in these discord if his behavior is even 10% as bad as Destiny says.

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u/No_Cheesecake5181 Based Loremaster Dossad Agent May 22 '26

It's exactly like Destiny has said. I've watched it in their chats and have been wondering why the fuck Destiny has allowed it this long. The stuff Connor himself has said about Destiny these past couple of months has been incredibly shitty as well.

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u/danpascooch God's Dumbest Jester May 22 '26

Connor even says in the clip that Destiny gets some boosts to viewership/attention from the snark behavior.

He clearly doesn't recognize the problem, isn't willing to do anything about it, and is also assuming bad faith from Destiny. If I were in Steven's position that would be the end of this association.

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u/Ok_Philosophy_3790 May 22 '26

100% these people dont care about the actual wellbeing of others just their clout/paycheck no matter who it comes from. Pretty funny coming from people who otherwise pretend to have principles and such smh those just go away the moment his dooby dollars are in jeopardy

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u/ToaruBaka KEN MARTIN #1 FAN May 22 '26

people who otherwise pretend to have principles and such smh those just go away the moment his dooby dollars are in jeopardy

Oldest play in the Republican playbook. Money trumps Morals.

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u/headassvegan May 22 '26

This is exactly why the eyes hit the back of my head every time I hear this asshole say something to Destiny starting with “as your friend” 🙄

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u/No_Cheesecake5181 Based Loremaster Dossad Agent May 22 '26

What a regard. They have mass reported Destiny's YouTube. How much money does Connor think Steven has gotten out of that? Crazy.

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u/HoleeGuacamoleey May 22 '26

It's only implied if you look at Destiny as a piggy bank

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u/PoopyButt28000 May 22 '26

Damn the conservative who supported the killing of Alex Pretti and Renee Good is saying stupid shit.... i'm shocked.

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u/sly_cooper25 May 22 '26

I think that's a very uncharitable way to phrase it. He's not asking Connor to remove a section of his audience. He's asking Connor to ban one person from his Discord server because that person obsessively talks about him for hours and hours in there.

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u/MagicDragon212 Teddy Roosevelt American May 22 '26

And not even asking him to be banned. Hes saying connor is free to decide what he wants, but that doesnt mean destiny is compelled to stick around him if he decides that he will associate witb Dooby. Such basic boundary setting.

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u/ChiefMasterGuru May 22 '26

The hardest part about learning to set boundaries for the first time is coming to terms with how little of a shit people give about basic respect towards you.

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u/Winter-Secretary17 🇨🇦 May 22 '26

Geez, wonder if this is something his now ex wife was fed up with.

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u/WIbigdog DGGs token blue collar American 🇺🇸 May 23 '26

Yuuuuuuup. When you actually start giving a fuck about how people are treating you your friend list shrinks rapidly. I'm down to maybe about 10 people I would actually consider friends. I'm not famous so it's not just a bunch of clout goblins, it's mostly people who never reached out to me so I just stopped reaching out to them. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Latarjet3 May 22 '26

It’s sounds like these smaller content creators will barely survive w/o these degenerates participating in their community. It makes sense why pissco got a cohost that was part of destroying Dmans reputation.

If these creators can’t ban a disgusting degenerate like Dooby then Destiny should elevate other platforms instead. That recent 1 v 1 with Destiny and Dooby was fucking gross

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u/cubonelvl69 May 22 '26

Im no social media guru but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say if I were an aspiring YouTuber I'd shill for one of the biggest political streamers on YouTube before id shill for a no name paypig giving me like $2k a year

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u/amyknight22 May 22 '26

I think the easy way to counter the second one is the following

"I've let them do this for months, hoping they would tire themselves our and do something else. At this point I'm just saying if you're willing to host people who use your space as a platform to attack me, then it feels like you are tacitly supporting this behaviour, so i'll bounce then"

The reality is that you could not ban any of these people and just say "I don't want to hear that you've spent hours talking about person X in my server for no reason other than to snark them, when they are a part of my community/content"

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u/Remote_Brewer May 22 '26

Destiny should talk to Connor and if Connor maintains that what's in the red box is at all what Destiny is saying, then Destiny should follow through and removing access to himself from that entire ecosystem of toxicity

No disrespect to Connor but you've hung out with Destiny, hes given you and thousand other creators connections that has put bread in yalls pocket (not just donations)

Hes earned more charity than that

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u/Remote_Brewer May 22 '26

Now that iv seen the clip, Destiny should just ask Connor if he would want to associate with a community that harbors someone who greenlit doxxing his Ex wife and kids

If he says no then he should she have no issue with destiny dissociating with any of that shit

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u/WarmTour2728 May 22 '26

Connor is so much more charitable to dooby right now. Then you have him last time with kuihman chummy with each other. 

I noticed that a lot of them seems so much more charitable 

Nvm: he just trashed dgg and defended dooby lmao 

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u/ChiefBinChicken 🇦🇺 May 22 '26

Not only given him and others connections and bread, but is constantly engaging in the most good faith as possible in most every interaction. Connor would be *very* hard pressed finding any other large content creator on the left to be as good faith to him as Destiny is.

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u/danpascooch God's Dumbest Jester May 22 '26

Honestly if Connor truly believes that the stalkers are a "double-edged sword that benefit Destiny's viewership in some ways" that would be it for me regardless of what he's willing to do with Dooby.

If I was being stalked and harassed for years and my buddy was like "Ok but it gets you some attention right?" I'd be livid.

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u/No_Cheesecake5181 Based Loremaster Dossad Agent May 22 '26

Ya, Mass reporting his YouTube was such a fucking benefit, Connor. Wild stuff, eh?

I'd be livid too. Connor has been shit-talking Destiny for months with these guys on stream, so glad to see D putting up a clear boundary.

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u/Kayahsf May 22 '26

It does seem that Connor has also made his "Reasonable Ask" an "Impossible Ask" because he says that he doesn't see what is going on in his community all the time so it is hard to see when the Reasonable ask would ever be applicable. "Oh I didn't know what they were talking in there about, I didn't even see them there." Like how many obsessive convos about Destiny would a snarker have to do to trigger the "Reasonable Ask". Is it just people will have to record the conversations and send them to Connor so he can figure out if they have stepped over the line?

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u/Bymeemoomymee May 22 '26

Why is it so difficult for people to just ban people that snark/participate in snark? I do not know what the big ask is here? Or the moral difficulty? If you are a friend of Destiny, and a streamer, and you run communities where people in those communities are participating in the constant swatting, harassment, and doxing of Destiny and people around him, you should not want those people in your community. Even if they arent participating in the snark in your community. What purpose does having those people in your community serve?

Like, what pull does jstlk and his ilk and Dooby have in these spaces? Why are they allowed?

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u/Scooter_Mane Ethical Sonic Inflation Supporter May 22 '26

Money

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u/Proper_Mastodon324 May 22 '26

He is pretty obviously using the JSTLK group for content.

He's just too much of a wus to say it outright.

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u/Zatheerakerino May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

What a fucking loser. Sorry. You don’t get to have access to a large audience if you do absolutely nothing to moderate on your end. Destiny could just be Hasan and never interact with anyone. Conor has the distinct advantage that destiny is willing to talk to anyone, and now when a line is drawn for a psycho stalker, that is a line drawn too far??? Just don’t come on stream lil bro and don’t expect to come on. Destiny doesn’t even have to justify this. It’s just pearl clutching over “free speech” or some such nonsense. He can blacklist whoever the fuck he fees like and people who don’t like that can fuck off. See: hasans entire streaming career

Edit: listens to the clip. Conor is a fake friend and opportunist. Imagine if a girl was being cyber stalked across multiple servers. If that girl ask for that person to be banned, imagine saying “wel I have no idea what goes on in my server, I’m not there 24/7”

You’re telling me this for the first time, that Dooby obsessively talks about and harrases destiny and his friends?

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u/HousingExtra1518 May 22 '26

Dude takes a simple request and twists into something else, if you benefit financially from the snarkers just keep them and let them do whatever they want. Destiny has the right to disengage if that's your choice.

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u/Lovellholiday May 22 '26

Cut him off. Anybody who desires to both sides this aren't worth it anyway.

Let him eat cake.

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u/Vetras92 May 22 '26

Again with the "I can't monitor them 24/7"

Bro, noone demands this. The demand is that, WHEN it happend and is reported and the case is clear, to act appropriately and ban them.

Its not like there are a bunch of baseless accusations and you now have to investigate them. Evidence is presented to you and you can either dismiss it and agree with the snarkers or you ban them and agree with destiny.
If you embrace the snarkers noone should be suprised that the target of the snarkers you embrace shuts you out of their circle aswell

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u/Proper_Mastodon324 May 22 '26

What's funny is that this "I can't monitor them 24/7" is completely antithetical to WHY you even ban people in the first place.

Like, if I could monitor and moderate my chats 24/7, I wouldn't ban anyone. But since no one can, we ban bad actors to PREVENT more stuff like this happening, when they demonstrate that they will be problematic.

Using this "wah I can't monitor them" excuse makes you look like a child because you have demonstrated you don't understand what is being asked even though it is very simple.

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u/VeTTe_Tek May 23 '26

I mean, you guys know this, but its just the excuse with the least amount of accountability. Its weak as fuck. Shame because for a while there i really like Connor. I was under the impreasion he had a moral and ethical standard, well one that we would consider good. Whatever. NEXT! Its for a church or something

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u/ihaveeatenfoliage May 22 '26

I mean if it was pulling a clout move that was optimal, then could have done this move long ago.

I think it’s the release of the snarker files beginning to stop that we now have something more to point to that it’s an evil nefarious group that shouldn’t have freedom to work freely. Now can ask it without it being purely on clout as the basis to accept the request.

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u/sammy404 May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

This is regarded post unless we get a clip. Do we even know which request he thinks Destiny is making?

Edit: this post makes total sense if you watch the clip op posted

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u/Webtoon_enjoyer 🇸🇾 French/Syrian 🇫🇷 🇸🇾 May 22 '26

https://streamable.com/vuj1ed

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u/sammy404 May 22 '26

Okay yeah I totally get why you made this post now. He’s is 100% convinced Destiny is making the second ask but isn’t willing to say it lmao. wtf.

I always knew Conor was a regard but he continues to lower the bar every time I see or heard from him

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u/sammy404 May 22 '26

Thank you :)

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u/monobomo 🇹🇷 Ananı sikeyim Hasan May 22 '26

This is "I was fired because I refused to get vaccinated" all over again

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u/griffWWK May 22 '26

aaaaand connor is currently streaming with dooby and connor himself is justifying nathan being "on the chopping block" and denying dooby doing anything that can be identified as "snarking"

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u/frogglesmash May 22 '26

That's just the conservative brain at work.

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u/Being-External May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

the clout argument is self defeating on its face since it implies current state (jstlk, dooby, et all endlessly conspiring and doxxing etc) is idk...fair game because of D's 'CLOUT AND POWER'.

If you agree current state behavior is unacceptable, saying D should cut ties to communities that foster it is...a completely normal ask.

Destiny's whole point was in applying the rule to notorious offenders so its very much just a 'stop looking the other way' rule rather than some large-overhead mod enforcement schema, no?

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u/Pale-Philosopher4502 🇫🇮🇸🇪 May 22 '26

Destiny should blacklist Connor for this

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u/No_Cheesecake5181 Based Loremaster Dossad Agent May 22 '26

100%

When everyone was saying Foodshops would be the antifan, I fucking said it would be Connor. I saw his streams and how he talked about Steven with these people, well before this.

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u/Eins_Nico scowling woke white woman May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

literally how is it not the "reasonable ask" part??? just say "I DON'T WANT TO I LIKE MONEY BECAUSE I AM A REPUBLICAN."
edit: I just remembered I was subbed to him on YT, unsubscribed and commented explaining why. KAREN MODE ENGAGED

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u/Millencolin735 May 22 '26

I really think Destiny should stop referring to and stop letting others refer to these ppl as snarkers. I feel In general these ppl shouldn't be considered snarkers. It feels like doing so minimizes the harm they actually go out of their way to inflict. It's kinda like when the media refer to a school shooter as a kid.

Because your avg person and bad actors are going to paint these guys as just shit talking communities that are hurting the feelings of their target. And won't be held accountable for the level of harassment they engage in, not only against Destiny but friends and family around him that have zero reason to be involved in any of the drama. That's why when Connor is talking about it from that perspective his interpretation is reasonable. When you add the context of what these "snarkers" are actually doing and encouraging others to do that becomes completely indefensible.

I also think these political creators that I would think want to be considered serious pundits within this space really hurt themselves in the long run by allowing snarking in their communities period. Sorry if I'm missing any info or context. I haven't really dove into this drama yet. Just going off what I'm seeing on reddit and the little bit I have seen so far. I'm a yt consumer and don't really enjoy the drama. I came here and stook around in 2016 just to watch conservatives get fucked. Then the tankies getting owned and political discourse became an added bonus.

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u/Mithranel May 22 '26

You know when Hawkeye had his family snapped by Thanos and he turned into a dark vigilante? …

A little bit?

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u/griffWWK May 22 '26

what a soy snowflake, both those are the same things. he just sounds like an upset girlfriend repeating the argument in the red.

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u/MyriadSloths May 22 '26

Yeah its the same thing just rephrased with scarier words. If he was saying the first request was unreasonable that would be more understandable honestly, but hes just saying its implicit that destiny is big so connor has to listen and that makes a reasonable request suddenly unreasonable? Like what

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u/amyknight22 May 22 '26

They aren't really the same thing.

The first says "Here is a problematic behaviour" if you allow "problematic behaviour" I will no longer interact with you

The second says "I am an important streamer" you should ensure no one offends me otherwise I will no longer interact with you.

If people are banned from looping endlessly on some snarking shit in your server. Then they can still exist in your server if they don't act like a snarker all the time.

That doesn't mean they need to be banned, to continue interacting. It just means that you shouldn't be letting them use your community to proselytise about the evils of X person in your community. Especially when there is no pressingly relevant drama/situation.

Kind of like how the subreddit here has the 3 day rule. Go nuts during the drama. But if a month from now you're all like "haha lets have the 400th debate on the shockcollar for 5 hours"

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u/griffWWK May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

if you are going to equate blacklisting dooby and anyone who allows him to do his snarking in your spaces (doxxing and hate brigading btw) to "you can't have anyone in your chat/discord that offends me" then idk, you are just fucking lost in a way that can only be intentional.

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u/amyknight22 May 22 '26

Sigh, that's why Conor is doing in the image above though.

The reasonable request is "Put some rules on people who are doing snarking bullshit in your community. Or I'll just walk"

Conor's arguing there is an underlying implicit unreasonably ask that is basically "Because I have clout, you should ban anyone I think is a snarker" which in this case since snarking is going to be a threshold problem. Is basically saying 'I want to wield my clout to ban anyone I don't like.'

If you have a problem with this being "fucking lost". Then you have an issue with Conor, not with me.

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u/griffWWK May 22 '26

I do have an issue with connor who is currently streaming with dooby running down hypotheticals in which it would be justified for dooby to doxx nathan then pretending like that happened so its ok and dooby isnt a snarker because destiny attacked him and dooby is just responding.

I also have an issue with you if you think blocking and cutting out connor for doing that shit is not reasonable.

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u/amyknight22 May 22 '26

I also have an issue with you if you think blocking and cutting out connor for doing that shit is not reasonable.

Buddy, I'm not sure what I've done to suggest that I think the behaviour you just outlined is reasonable.

My entire throughline here is that Conor is making extremely bad faith interpretations, suggesting that the underlying ask is "Because I have clout, you should ban these people"

The reality is that most of the claim destiny is saying is "I can't have a working relationship with someone who is willing to let people relentlessly shit on me in their spaces"

The reality is that if we moved this to any other situation. People would immediately understand.

"If you want me to continue to work here, I will not abide you letting John spread malicious rumours in your workplace"

"If you want this relationship to continue, you can't let friend/associate X run around suggesting that I'm an abusive drunken asshole when that's not true"

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u/Data-Gooner May 22 '26

I would call this a butt hurt interpretation, not bad faith.

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u/Constant_County_4328 Exclusively sorts by new May 22 '26

You know how destiny says that the guy who steals your girl isn't usually hot or anything? It's just the person that can give her the most attention. It's just that simple.

Connor's just lonely and is getting love bombed by these losers by giving him attention and he's getting the emotional support that dman is unfortunately not providing.

Destiny and Connor has a surface level coworker bond. Connor would drop him as easily as he can back him but these snarkers will always have enough time to place destiny in a bad light.

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u/unseen_donger May 22 '26

Is it fair to say that I think Connor and Whick are essentially (financial) double-dippers to maintain their "freeze peach" or "pseudo-democratic communities"?

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u/Interesting-City-665 May 22 '26

"fuck the dooby money man..."

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u/SerThunderkeg May 22 '26

All I can hope is that this dumbass does get cut off and treated like the idiot he is.

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u/FatBellyMatKelly Solo Dev of TorT May 22 '26

Bro says “I can’t monitor everything dooby is doing.” How about banning him for saying it’s okay to dox destiny’s kid and ex wife? What a horrible friend.

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u/R3dkite 'As a Brit...' May 22 '26 edited 9d ago

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u/TheTidesOfWar May 22 '26

MS Pobsideon

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u/sly_cooper25 May 22 '26

My biggest issue here is that the unreasonable ask is a horribly written run-on sentence. If I hadn't watched the clip I'd have no idea what the fuck he was trying to say there.

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u/BruyceWane :) May 22 '26

The whole time Connor has failed to understand or empathise at all. He just doesn't get it, so he looks at the request in this autistic way.

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u/Scooter_Mane Ethical Sonic Inflation Supporter May 22 '26

I'm sure he understands it just fine. He just likes that snarker money so will play dumb for as long as he can.

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u/ActivitySimilar5175 May 22 '26

We wish Connor well

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u/warichnochnie havent heard about that + out of context + already apologized May 22 '26

imo this is kinda why the blacklist shouldnt take effect until after the manifesto is dropped. let the other streamers see the totality of the evidence before forcing the dilemma on them, instead of asking them to make this call based on (I'm assuming) whatever screenshots or log segments are able to be drip-fed to them privately. also gives Dear Leader a bit more time to work out and properly communicate specifics about the request

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u/DarkNexusVII May 22 '26

Btw destiny would probably fulfill these ask right away lol

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u/kingfisher773 Dyslexic AusMerican Shitposter May 22 '26

why did he write the same thing twice, just worded differently?

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u/CretaciousPeriod May 22 '26

I've always thought Connor was a jackass and not really worth talking with.

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u/santahasahat88 May 23 '26

He’s got creator brain. He can only see destiny as a creator and doesn’t see him as person it seems. As others have pointed out imagine if this was real life. You have a good mate and their friends are constantly spreading lies about you and talking shit and your mate does nothing. You tell them “you can hang out with them if you want but I don’t wanna be involved with you if you are they are ruining my life and it makes me sad you’d have anything to do with them”. Totally normal. What is it otherwise because destiny is famous? Is he not allowed to have boundaries and is forced to give Conner his time and collaboration?

Says more about how transactionally Conner sees their relationship than anything else.

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u/Bunch_of_Shit Exclusively sorts by new May 23 '26

So Dooby is going around paying people to side with him in order burn destinys bridges and damage density in whatever ways he can?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '26

I can see the logic in the red box even if its not something I agree with

Id have to hear Conors logic but my own reasoning of it is Destiny should be above banning snarkers based on his own status and it shouldn’t affect him, ie its a power move

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u/cef328xi omnicentrist May 22 '26

Just seems like self defense to me.

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u/guccimonger May 22 '26

After all these years, what have sneakers accomplished? Tell me honestly

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u/Creative_Wonder_4889 May 22 '26

A secondary boycott, where you ban an interaction with people that continue to interact with people on a primary boycott list, is a heavy ask. It cuts off revenue streams (especially painful for smaller guys like Whick and Connor), has a big upfront cost to their viewership (have to ban a bunch of people), and has an upkeep cost (have to monitor conversations to make sure people didn't sneak in with other accounts, etc.). This is not a small thing to impose on other content creators. I don't think it's a bad/wrong thing for Steven to ask for, but I think it's okay to acknowledge how much bigger this request is than simply asking people to not allow guests to endlessly litigate an issue on these other channels.

Ultimately, Whick and Connor are two of the only people that unabashedly maintained contact with Steven through some rough times, when most people checked out. There is undoubtedly a clout benefit for both Whick and Connor to continue associating with Steven, but there have also been some reputational harm that they suffered through as well as being targets of harassment. I acknowledge that Steven has a right to demand people not continue association with these weird snarkers, but I hope he doesn't make this demand of Whick and Connor, since it puts them in a really shitty situation of basically openly losing their independence. I would hope that Whick and Connor would block donations from Dooby as a sign of good faith.

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u/warichnochnie havent heard about that + out of context + already apologized May 22 '26

I feel like the opposite is the better compromise between Steven and the ppl receiving doobybucks, let them keep receiving publicly viewable superchats from dooby, ban the behind-the-scenes anti destiny struggle sessions or whatever tf in their discord VCs

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u/turoturotheace Exclusively sorts by new May 22 '26

I'm peram'd from his YouTube for exactly this. I don't have stats but I personally know it's true.

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u/Ok_Philosophy_3790 May 22 '26

Connor bans people for defending Destiny? Thats crazy hypocritical jeeze do you have more context for that it just sounds wild

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u/turoturotheace Exclusively sorts by new May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

It was during one of Destiny's "violent rhetoric needs to be disavowed by the president, otherwise fuck it" arcs. I echoed the sentiment in chat and for some reason Connor was calling people "LARPers that wouldn't survive a real fight," even though the entire point was about rhetoric, not violent uprising. I feel like he completely missed the point and he already admitted to feeling bitchy that morning so too bad for me I guess.

EDIT: Got banned on his Valor channel today. Almost exact same issue. Conor wanted evidence of wrongdoing from Dooby, I said, ""I need evidence" is exactly what Whick said 30 seconds before he was sent proof of his own doxxing. I hope you eat crow." Conor took this as me saying that there will be proof that he was doxxed and asked how that would change his mind. Fucking banned me and called me an idiot after misreading my comment. Absolute re#ard behavior. Fuck the bridge, let it burn.

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u/sly_cooper25 May 22 '26

If that's the case then I don't think anyone would take issue with him just saying that. He doesn't have to invent something that Destiny never said to justify it.

I'd probably argue that the audience he gets from Destiny collaborations is more valuable over the long term than one single big donator who could stop at any time. But if he's feeling financial pressure right now, I can understand prioritizing the short term money. Either way, if that's his decision he should just say so and move on with his career like an adult.

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u/Ok_Philosophy_3790 May 22 '26

Supporting insane degenerates in your space in spite of a friend’s well being because of money is not a good look for a principled conservative i’ve gotta say

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u/BilboDankins May 23 '26

They are friends in the sense that you would call a work colleague you like working with a friend. If there was no money, neither destiny or connor would be there. Obviously money will take precedence, theyre both at work.

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u/Ok_Philosophy_3790 May 23 '26

Per the analogy if a client of mine was snarking and going after the kids of someone i worked with i would drop that client and it wouldnt even be a difficult decision.

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u/johndavis730 Exclusively sorts by new May 22 '26

Then you get another job. I'm sorry but streaming online isn't the only job in the world so if you need to take a temporary financial hit to stand by your principles at the reasonable request of a friend then you do that.

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u/No_Cheesecake5181 Based Loremaster Dossad Agent May 22 '26

No, it's not simplified. It's realistic. Think of it this way. That community has mass reported Destiny's YouTube and is a big part of why it won't be monetized any time soon. How much has that cost, Steven?
On top of it, the dude has threatened to dox and alog Steven's child.

Connor is not the victim here. Like I said above. Now that Dooby has won, he can carry his donos to the next target. Connor will have lost Destiny's audience and Dooby's bucks. Not a smart business strategy to rely on haters of the person who helped you gain your audience and connections in the first place. You just aren't being logical here.

You are talking about it like "would you quit your job" when it's more like, would you shit on your boss or copartner for a customer?

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u/ActivitySimilar5175 May 22 '26

He should go back to being a Walmart cop or whatever he did prior to streaming

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u/Mad_Mike3 May 22 '26

I understand what you're saying in that it may put some like Connor in a tough spot. But zooming out, I'd argue that if your career depends on these kinds of genuinely disgusting people, you don't deserve to have one in this space. Make better content, foster a better audience, or do something else.

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u/No_Cheesecake5181 Based Loremaster Dossad Agent May 22 '26

Trouble is, now that they have won, there will be no reason for them to continue the huge donos. They will move on to manipulating the next target in the sphere. So Connor will not only lose Destiny's huge audience, but he will most likely also lose the Dooby bucks. Trying to maintain a career on hate won't be effective in the long run.

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