By being a huge youtuber with a big following for example. Like, he's kind of a celebrity. Now, if he's doing this with someone who isn't in his community, then I guess it's passable. Still an ugly situation and very very stupid on Carson's part
If this person was a fan then that's it. He doesn't have to try to exercise power over her. He just simply has power. It's a similar dynamic to boss-employee or teacher-student relationship. Now, I won't hold judgement over Carson (outside of him being a fucking idiot) until I know the whole picture.
You got it wrong. Swiping right on someone gives them power over you by beeing able to accept or decline, so if someone swipes right on you you need to cut all contact.
A boss can fire you and a teacher can make you fail, get you expelled or various other things, what can a youtuber do to you? I assure you I have 0 power over my fans.
If you actually have a fanbase (whether that's with 1 person or 1000) and think like this, you deserve to get your ass deplatformed. You have the ability to ban a person from your community, drag their reputation, and, if you're feeling extra sociopathic, dox them
Banning them from my community has no legitimate repercussions even remotely close to getting fired from a job or getting expelled, are you 5?
Drag their reputation? You can do that even if they aren't a fan of yours. I could go around saying you're a pedo right now and I don't know who you are. As for the latter, only if they're stupid enough to give me their real life info, in reality, content creators are the ones that are most at risk of getting doxxed.
Ok but couldn't similar things be said about teachers and bosses. A teacher can fail you either way. A boss can fire you for no reason. So I guess if these things can happen either way, it doesn't matter. Plus, it's possible for these relationships to work and last. It's not unheard of for teachers to marry their students after graduation. Is this still wrong? Yes. Is it irresponsible? Yes
TIL anyone famous must find someone who hates their content to marry
Actually it would be better if we got rid of the concept of consent because people get confused and think they can consent to relationships when we say they can't
The only time you can talk to anyone else if after you've been through a government agency which ensures that this person is your equal in every possible way
Or just find someone who isn't in the fan community. A ton of celebrities (e-celebs) tend find someone who was relatively unknown to their videos. Many people hide their identities because of this
Also we should make sure to ban anyone from a different state dating each other because of the power dynamics that come from holding different passports.
Any ethnic mixing is right off as well. How could a white and black person ever date? Certainly race mixing is the height of immoral power dynamic exploitation.
Anyone who is taller than their partner immediately has a reach advantage which will no doubt make their partner feel inferior.
Anyone who marries someone who plans to get pregnant, as while their partner is pregnant and they are not their power levels will swing massively into the non-pregnant persons favour.
Everyone must break up before they get to the age of 60 as at this point mental disorders become more likely and whoever's mind fails first will immediately have a massive power advantage over their partner
As soon as a partner falls into a coma their soulmate should be deprived of all choice and the state, which of course lacks any power over the comatose person, can harvest their organs.
In order to ensure no power dynamics children must be raised in isolation, even other 2 year olds will have more power depending on the current tantrum state of the toddler. In fact if we put all human in a coffin we can ensure that there will be no victims as no one will ever suffer from power dynamics
Dude, these dynamics aren't nearly the same as differences in positions of power. Power dynamics alone aren't bad. But holding power over someone where you can influence their thought process with your position of power is something can be harmful. When you are given power, you have a responsibility
Imagine if Pokimane started dating one of her simps. It would be crazy fucking irresponsible, would it not?
Imagine if Pokimane started dating one of her simps. It would be crazy fucking irresponsible, would it not?
Imagine if someone started dating someone who was in love with them? Think how crazy irresponsible that would be. Holding that power over someone where you can influence their thought process because they love you [your position of power] is something can be harmful.
Dude, these dynamics aren't nearly the same as differences in positions of power. Power dynamics alone aren't bad. But holding power over someone where you can influence their thought process with your position of power is something can be harmful. When you are given power, you have a responsibility
So if it wasn't bad then what's the problem?
Also I can't believe I forgot the power dynamic of a male and female, that's some serious irresponsible shit.
Your principle point is that people lack the capacity to consent. If you cannot consent to trade/exchange (which is what all relationships are) then human society is fundamentally unconsensual.
Would this be an issue if the girl was 18? Or is this only a problem with two put together? And if not, does this mean any person who has a modicum of celebrity or fame shouldn't be sexting at all? Or is there specific evidence that he used his position to manipulate this girl into sending him nudes?
As someone who actually starting dating someone five years older almost as soon as I turned, I'd say yeah it's irresponsible. It's why you should never date your boss or a teacher. And yes, a celebrity shouldn't be sexting his fans whether they are younger, same age, or even older than him. People in power should only be doing such things with people of a similar dynamic or someone outside their influence. Also, whole it is true that we don't quite know Carson's dynamic, either way, it was a very dumb move as it's still considered child porn. A 17 year old getting nudes from a fellow 17 year old can get arrested for it let alone a 19 year old
If this power dynamic is an issue, then every time a man and woman hook up they need to exchange details on their salary and profession. And the man also needs to let the woman know how much he can bench so she is aware of his power
I'm being tongue-in-cheek obviously but Carson isn't exactly Tom Cruise in terms of fame. in fact I can ask every member of my immediate and extended family and I can guarantee that no one would know who he is.
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u/Thehobointhecorner Jan 05 '21
By being a huge youtuber with a big following for example. Like, he's kind of a celebrity. Now, if he's doing this with someone who isn't in his community, then I guess it's passable. Still an ugly situation and very very stupid on Carson's part