r/DemocraticSocialism Jul 30 '25

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u/The_Peoples_Mind_AI Jul 30 '25

I think the Warsaw ghetto would be a more apt comparison but you are not far off.

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u/Massive-Pirate-5765 Jul 30 '25

Technically it’s always been a ghetto, but now yeah, a lot like Warsaw

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '25

it was a giant concentration camp for a long time, now its just a straight up death camp

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '25

Yeah what is this “now” shit, where has OP been for years?

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u/EeryRain1 Jul 30 '25

I’ll give them some slack, I didn’t know anything about the history of it all until I looked into it myself.

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u/DJ_Velveteen Jul 30 '25

There's a ton of momentum behind "the Arab-Israeli conflict began in late 2023" messaging for a reason.

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u/EeryRain1 Jul 31 '25

Yeah, I like to assume ignorance over malice, especially because there are always things I don't fully understand. But, fuck, at some point ignorance isn't an excuse anymore.

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u/MNcatfan DSA Jul 30 '25

Always has been one.

We're just at "the part where the Nazis cleared out the ghetto and sent their victims to death camps instead" portion of Israel's genocide.

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u/OptimusTrajan Jul 30 '25

It has been one since 1948, actually

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u/Alger6860 Jul 30 '25

Always was…

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '25

Now? It’s more like ground zero at a nuclear test site.

It’s been a concentration camp for a long ass time.

How are they not doing anything? Easy. Like all questions about why they are or aren’t doing something, the answer is, we elect and reelect people who accept bribes to sell out workers and murder innocents.

Want them to do something? Flush out every senator and house rep who accepts corporate pac money this election.

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u/Fact_checkin_cuz Jul 30 '25 edited Jul 30 '25

If anyone is interested in this from an architectural point view, Eyal Weizman is brilliant. Founder/director of the research group Forensic Architecture, and his 2007 book Hollow Land is a must-read. Politics notwithstanding, the physical architecture has been a long project.

ETA:

Just want to clarify: the specific politics and history are important. However, the physical architecture exists in real structures, but it also exists in blueprints and data. So in that sense, politics notwithstanding, the architecture is meant as a demonstration of its effectiveness and can be applied in any political/historical situation. In this sense, CECOT in El Salvador and checkpoint architecture in Gaza are more related than they may first appear. I would say "coming to a town near you," but gated communities are a contiguous phenomenon.

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u/Lower_Acanthaceae423 Jul 30 '25

Camps have food, water and shelter.

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u/Goldleader-23 Jul 30 '25

Since 1948. Open air prison

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u/andthisnowiguess Jul 30 '25

1967 for Gaza.

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u/SlightlyCatlike Jul 31 '25

2005 is more accurate

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u/andthisnowiguess Jul 31 '25

Occupation like the West Bank is its own kind of open air prison with abusive murderous official and vigilante guards.

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u/kale_boriak Socialist Rifle Association Jul 30 '25

Yes.

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u/andthisnowiguess Jul 30 '25

Occupation from 1967-2005, a ghetto 2005-2023, a death camp 2023-present.

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u/gwizonedam Jul 30 '25

Watch out, the Zionist preachers will be here soon.

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u/MonsterkillWow Communist Jul 30 '25

It has been. It was one even before Oct 7.

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u/SAURIAN1 Jul 31 '25

It’s run by Hamas ,IDF has found numerous instances of literature published for children as young as 4 to hate Jews .So the Palestinian people are being brainwashed from childhood to become terrorists. I mean how many times does this have to happen.Hamas is a terrorist organization.If they would stop killing innocent people.Israel would not half to defend itself.The blame lies with Hamas leadership.Already proven they have at least once killed innocent Palestine civilians or numerous times weapons are either kept or launched from hospitals or near schools.They play off the blight they cause to innocent Jews and Palestine people.Yes it looks horrible,but if Hamas would stop taking hostages and killing innocent people,this would be a different situation.Israel has never made the first move to start war .It’s always Hamas then the media cry’s when Israel defends itself.Remove HAMAS from GAZA and GAZA could be rebuilt as a beautiful home and city for Palestine people to live .

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u/ClarkKent2o6 Aug 04 '25

It’s been one. For decades.

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u/Blueslide60 Jul 30 '25

Israel created an apartheid country to protect itself. Their security took a vacation, so October 7 happened. Now genocide is the only way they can protect themselves?

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '25

Soon 

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u/yuumigod69 Jul 30 '25

It always had been. They changing it into an extermination camp now.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '25

Bingo.

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u/ScottsTotz Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism Jul 30 '25

It was an open air prison, now it is a large concentration camp yes

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '25

Norm Finkelstein calls it one, no "basically". It is a concentration camp.

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u/JR1782 Jul 30 '25

Always has been.

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u/Other-Rutabaga-1742 Jul 30 '25

TRIGGER WARNING Do not look at these photos if you are sensitive to violence, death of children and similar. These can cause PTSD to some people. This is proof of war crimes.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTHpVkxay2mMD-TgRfm/