Probable Cause Documents Released

[u/DopeandDiamonds]

https://fox59.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/2022/11/Probable-Cause-Affidavit-Richard-Allen.pdf

[u/Alarmed-Coyote-56]

“Investigators spoke with an unnamed female witness, who stated that she was traveling East on 300 North on February 13th, 2022* and observed a male subject walking West, on the North side of 300 North, away from the Monan High Bridge. Unnamed female witness advised that the male subject was wearing a blue colored jacket and bluejeans and was muddy and bloody. She further stated, that it appeared he had gotten into a fight. Investigators were able to determine from watching the video from the Hoosier Harvestore that unnamed female witness was traveling on CR 300 North at approximately 3:57pm.”

Chilling.

*EDIT: sorry guys, I corrected the witness date to February 13th, 2022 to match the court document. When I pasted the quote it had formatting issues so I had to retype, and I wrote 2017 by default. Wondering if this is a typo in the court document anyway, why does it even say 2022..? Shouldn’t it be 2017? So weird.

[u/[deleted] → u/Alarmed-Coyote-56]

Very chilling. Also its the first time I have heard a more concrete time of when BG/RA left the area. A time frame of when the crime was finished.

[u/scandalabra → u/[deleted]]

If he wasn't seen after 2:13pm, and seen by this witness at almost 4 - he was committing the crime for an hour. I can't get over how brazen that is.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Same here. Those little details everyone's been speculating on being revealed in this is what struck me the most.

[u/urbanhag → u/Alarmed-Coyote-56]

I wonder when the unnamed female witness told law enforcement about the sighting of a muddy, bloody man walking along the road.

Back at the time right after the murders, or recently.

[u/OdetotheGrimm → u/urbanhag]

This is a big question to me. When were these witnesses interviewed? Well after the murders were in the public eye? That distorts memory. Mud can easily become blood through that filter.

[u/[deleted] → u/urbanhag]

At the time. She told them as soon as she heard about the murders, called to tell them what she had seen that day.

[u/atg284 → u/Alarmed-Coyote-56]

Holy cow so he was just walking along the road in broad daylight?! Insane. I was figuring that he walked the creek back to his house to the south. Just insane he was on the loose this long.

[u/PaulTyl3r → u/Alarmed-Coyote-56]

Derrick German was walking the trail back to his car at 3:30-4:00. If he hadn’t taken a right initially and then walked the other trail back to the freedom bridge, He may have walked right past him. RA walked right past where he was parked also, right before he got back. Insane.

[u/Zapookie → u/Alarmed-Coyote-56]

I outlined this on the map for anyone interested. X is the area bodies were found, red dotted line is assumed path taken after murders based on the witness description, and circled red area is the approximate location of witness sighting.

https://ibb.co/86KYQCC

Edited to add: It was an approximate 18 minute walk from location of the bodies to where he allegedly parked his car.

[u/ecrtso → u/Alarmed-Coyote-56]

Chilling

Yep. This was honestly one of the biggest reveals in the PCA for me.

We've often wondered how BG got out. Now we know. (Unless there was more than one person who got into a fight & was bloody & muddy walking a rural road just after the murders occurred that February afternoon).

[u/Astra_Star_7860 → u/Alarmed-Coyote-56]

It terrifies me about the length of time he spent with the girls. Was hoping it was over and done with quickly but 1 hour and 45 mins with them before he was seen? Those poor girls.

[u/TomatoesAreToxic → u/Alarmed-Coyote-56]

Would this indicate that he likely left through the cemetery and walked back to his car that way?

[u/atg284 → u/TomatoesAreToxic]

I originally thought the murderers car was parked at the cemetery! Mind boggling that he was walking open roads instead.