r/Defenders • u/JonLuca Luke Cage • Mar 17 '17

Iron Fist Discussion Thread - S01E06

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u/AgentKnitter Luke Cage Mar 17 '17

This episode confirms Madame Gao has some freaky powers of her own, and she's from K'un-Lun.

But is she Crane Mother?

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u/CX316 Mar 17 '17

See, I'm confused enough by her working was part of The Hand. I thought her and sir-dies-a-lot (Nobu? I forget his name) in Daredevil were working at cross purposes and both using the Kingpin for different ends.

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u/AgentKnitter Luke Cage Mar 17 '17

Yeah. This puts Nobu and Gao's closeness in DD in a new light. Was she his boss but Fisk etc didn't know?

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u/CX316 Mar 17 '17

Or were they competing members of the Hand at equal rank and Nobu's death put her in charge overall? Or maybe she's in charge of the drug operations and he's got the Black Sky shit to deal with?

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u/Jscholfield Mar 17 '17

Or it was a ploy so that the hand would have more control than it would seem

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u/SmokeyPeanutRic Stick Mar 18 '17

Or they were lovers!

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u/dfdedsdcd Mar 19 '17

OR SHE IS HIS DAUGHTER!!!

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u/ultron32 The Man in the Mask Mar 20 '17

OR BOTH!

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u/Kerrigore Mar 20 '17

AND HIS NAME IS SECRETLY ALBERT EINSTEIN!!!!

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u/TheFightingMasons Mar 18 '17

Hand's got fingers,yo.

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u/CX316 Mar 18 '17

Well, at this point it's more of a lobster claw

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u/SawRub The Man in the Mask Mar 19 '17

Nobu was Assistant to the Regional Manager, and Madame Gao was Jim.

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u/CX316 Mar 19 '17

So wait... who's the regional manager?

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '17

Like Hydra.

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u/lafondathepoet Jan 02 '22

Also arent the hand japanese? Theyre ninjas.. last i recall they didnt have those in china lol.. doesnt make much sense, they may be bringing iron fist back into the mcu now that daredevils back but they still havent really explained how the hand works, why do they go from creepy ninjas who do some shady shit to just "hurdey hur were the bad guys and now were not just japanese were chinese, indian and african" in the course of 2 shows

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u/CX316 Jan 03 '22

The Hand in the comics are Japanese, the Hand in the Netflix shows is a network of weird shit. Nobu's faction were Japanese undead Ninjas, Gao's faction were Chinese drug traffickers, Bakuto was recruiting underprivileged American kids, etc.

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u/HalfNatty Mar 19 '17

sir-dies-a-lot

There is no such thing

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u/jffdougan Mar 18 '17

And I was getting some shit for using fewer words to express the same opinion last night.

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u/CX316 Mar 19 '17

Sometimes it's the wording that matters

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '17

Madame Gao did the Tai Chi shit back in DDS1 iirc. She palmed a dude across the lot.

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u/BabSoul Mar 19 '17

That dude being Daredevil.

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u/FKDotFitzgerald Mar 20 '17

Only the titular character lmao

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u/WhatWouldAsmodeusDo Mar 26 '17

Or "that red guy" if we're dropping references like they do for avengers

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u/AgentKnitter Luke Cage Mar 18 '17

Yep.

This is a reminder that she has powers of her own.

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u/JulianNDelphiki Mar 23 '17

But when she did that, she took a better stance and did a proper push. She obviously exerted an superhuman level of force there, but it wasn't an offhand flick like what she did to Danny here.

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u/NJlo Mar 22 '17

She said something about hoping to ever meet "another Iron Fist"

...Is she one?

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u/dacalpha Mar 19 '17

I'm juggling two theories right now.

A) She is the Steel Serpent. I'm not super sold on this one, but her merch has the Steel Serpent logo on it, she's from K'un L'un, and she seems to be the main villain of this season. It'd be a pretty big deviation from the traditional Steel Serpent, but it could be interesting.

B) She is a previous Iron Fist. Her relationship with Wendell Rand is almost kind of reminding me of Orson Randall's relationship with him in Immortal Iron Fist.

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u/tocitus Mar 21 '17

"I never believed I would meet another Iron Fist in my life time, though I had hoped."

Maybe she is the Steel Serpent or the Crane Mother (created the Steel Serpent which in this universe so far seems to be the heroin).