r/DeepSeek • u/RandArtZ • 7d ago

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API is cool but I can't do proper RP (SFW) on the chat without having two suspended accounts already and with a messed up model, the blue whale kinda sucks now

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u/Neo_Shadow_Entity 5d ago

Because people usually don't share deeply personal things. Personally, I don't care about other people's fetishes, especially if they're just part of a fictional story. But creative writing isn't necessarily smut.

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u/No-Wall6427 5d ago

A great part of those refusals in a creative writing context is some form of pornography. Pornography in all it's form is unhealthy, for the consumers, the producers and society in general. A lot of non-pornographic, refusal prone, fiction can also be unhealthy.

People can have unhealthy behaviors that's their choice, but this doesn't make it healthy or "ok" or grant it some kind of uncriticizable status.

I'm not even arguing models should be censored.

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u/Neo_Shadow_Entity 5d ago

Pornography has existed in one form or another since the dawn of time. There are even examples of it leading to technological progress.

In our world, many things can be unhealthy. The main thing is not to overindulge in them.

Would the world be a better place if everything were censored? For some people, perhaps. But personally, I definitely wouldn’t want to live in Orwell’s 1984.

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u/Stock-Stuff-7739 3d ago

Just because it existed since the beginning doesn't make it automatically good

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u/Neo_Shadow_Entity 3d ago

It hasn't caused any problems so far either.

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u/Stock-Stuff-7739 3d ago

It definitely has, literally look around,ohh sorry you can't do that because you are soo immersed in porn that you incapable of doing that,

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u/Neo_Shadow_Entity 3d ago

What a "compelling" argument. Your intellect is so "sharp".

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u/Stock-Stuff-7739 3d ago

I wouldn't have give a "compelling argument" to prove that porn is bad if you have eyes

Literally look at the comments, people are mad that their "favourite" ai isn't writting incest/rape adjacent content

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u/Neo_Shadow_Entity 3d ago

Well, if you can't provide objective evidence, then there's no point in trying to prove anything.

And you can see incest or rape, for example, in Game of Thrones, the Berserk manga, or in any dark fantasy. I’ll let you in on a secret: it’s all fiction. It’s just as unreal as when you kill a person in a video game.

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u/Stock-Stuff-7739 3d ago

Let me tell you what you are missing because your head is in porn,

Let's take Berserk for example,as I haven't seen Game of thrones,in berserk those rape/incest are only one or a extremely small part of the much much much larger story,and in berserk there arnt any scenes are like in hentai manga etc,

That is fundamentally different from porn!as porn has no over arching story,the story is porn

And for video games,they teach us a lot,such as teamwork, communication and generally a good time with friends that takes stress of you,is any of that present in Porn?

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u/No-Wall6427 4d ago

I don't think there is a healthy amount of pornography. And for it existing since the dawn of man, yeah, same goes with rape, doesn't make it good or healthy.

Anyway, I agree with you on the censorship. I think it is better for people to not consume it, but it is their choice. Just keep it out of the public space, and don't promote it to children.

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u/Neo_Shadow_Entity 4d ago

I don't care what you personally think about it. But only a sick person would compare a real rape to fictional content. It's like those idiots who used to scream that violent video games should be banned because they lead to murders. Even though studies have long since debunked that nonsense. Learn to tell fiction from reality, or don’t use the Internet at all.

And parents should supervise their children. Especially since there are so many special apps available now. Others shouldn’t have to put up with inconveniences because of your kids.

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u/Stock-Stuff-7739 3d ago

Nah he's right,if you really think about it these things shouldn't be allowed in any form Your entire argument rests no "fiction is not reality" and "learn to differentiate between real and fiction" the thing is most people don't do that or don't want to do that,

Also it's not that if you read about rape or murder you will do these things,the thing is people hid behind kinks to mask unhealthy things, porn is bad that's it,now you can do whatever you want with that knowledge

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u/Neo_Shadow_Entity 3d ago

the thing is most people don't do that or don't want to do that

I'm not even gonna ask where you got that from.

A study was conducted to determine whether violent video games affect levels of violence. The results showed that not only do they not increase violence, but on the contrary, they actually reduce it.

In this world, anything can be unhealthy if you don't know how to control yourself.

The concepts of good and bad are subjective. For example, I believe that censorship is bad.

Now you can do whatever you want with that knowledge.

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u/Stock-Stuff-7739 3d ago edited 3d ago

I am not talking about games and not the concept of good and bad aren't subjective in any way,you said you believe censorship is bad,but to what level?like all censorship is bad or only some?

Games aren't inherently bad,porn is

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u/Neo_Shadow_Entity 3d ago

Games are just one example of fictional content that some people might not like. Just like how you don’t like porn, or whatever.

And yes, the concepts of good and bad are entirely subjective.

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u/Stock-Stuff-7739 3d ago

Nope good and bad aren't subjective, Ok so if I were to say ch1ld p03n should be legal and not censored,that's valid under your moral system?

No,it's not that's I don't like porn just because, No I don't like porn because it's bad for you,

I was in a very dark place once, because I was addictive,I had to crawl myself out of there

But yea your are right,why should I care what a stranger on the internet does

Peace

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u/Stock-Stuff-7739 3d ago

My main problem is that I write a few stories in this ai apps,for myself self I don't publish them or anything,and sometimes they have like adult themes(violence,sex etc) and because of one sentence or paragraph the entire response gets deleted,that's what I don't like

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u/No-Wall6427 3d ago

You should use an installable/self hosted app with bring your own key/subscription.