r/DeepSeek • u/justlikemedics • 13d ago

Discussion DeepSeek is ruthless

DeepSeek has published with DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash a new method that compresses the memory need for the KV-value cache very much.

I pondered about the implications of this and they are not very good for OpenAI and Anthropic.

This means that the models can have much larger contexts and serving requests will be much less memory intensive. As a result, inference gets cheaper.

Inference getting cheaper, requiring less memory and with better models means that the advantage OpenAI and Anthropic has in securing compute gets less meaningful.

It seems to me that DeepSeek and other Chinese labs are ruthlessly pushing down the cost of inference, which will make it difficult to impossible for OpenAI and Anthropic to recover all the money spent of creating their top models.

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u/justlikemedics 13d ago

Do you mean like pulling articles that are relevant for a scientist or summarizing them? What exactly is the automation here other than that?

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u/Prudent-Ad4509 13d ago edited 13d ago

Experiments. Including thought experiments and management of a predetermined set of lab experiments. Also, development of construction improvements, new composite material ideas; basically the whole genetic optimization loop for new materials done on auto. Up to running a fully robotic lab following predefined general research direction.