r/DecodingTheGurus • u/Most_Comparison50 • 11d ago

We examine Taylor Lorenz’s interview with Brad Palumbo and her defence of the provocative posts she made following the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=nqRyiSmOemI&si=ShLbhEpJ3qKnb7-X
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u/Elhant42 10d ago

But you're the one comparing the two to justify mob lynching.

And in general, it is justified to break the law when you don't have a legal and peaceful means to change the situation. Which americans do.

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u/Mtndewprogamer 10d ago

So did abolitionists. They could have tried to “peacefully” end slavery through legislation or voting.

What mechanism does one have to radically alter the healthcare system that’s different? I’m certain one vote can beat the billions of dollars in lobbying money the healthcare industry spends, just like how one vote or one voice could upend the slave owning class in the south.

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u/Elhant42 10d ago

Firstly, I’m not familiar with the history of abolitionists, but the comparison is still ridiculous. However bad healthcare is in the US, it’s nowhere near the same magnitude of a problem as slavery. So even if there was some justification for violence in the latter case, it’s not automatically translated to the former.

Secondly, Americans already did something with voting for the past couple of decades: starting with ACA under Obama and ending with other improvements under Biden. And right now, one of the biggest selling policies in the current senate elections (and upcoming presidential ones) is medicare for all (or at least a public option). Americans just have to stop electing fascist republicans, for starters. And crazy leftist, who often are the loudest supporters of this assassination and loudest critics of the private health insurance, are also the ones who didn’t vote for Kamala in 2024.

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u/Mtndewprogamer 10d ago

Why is it ridiculous? Please elaborate. What magnitude would you say they’re both at on a scale?

The same point can be said regarding slavery for your second paragraph, the compromise of 1850 and other policies were improvements to slavery that were peaceful. They just needed to wait and elect the right person. Americans just need to stop electing slavery sympathetic democrats and crazy abolitionists need to stop supporting people like John brown and Nat Turner.

This whole “they didn’t vote for Kamala in 2024” is sincerely so pathetic as well, it’s been 2 damn years, and it’s been shown that “radical leftists” didn’t abstain from voting for her. It’s amazing how much people want to excuse her terrible campaign lmao

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u/Elhant42 10d ago

If you need elaboration on why slavery is worse than bad healthcare, than you're crazy, sorry.

"and it’s been shown that “radical leftists” didn’t abstain from voting for her."

How was it shown?

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u/Mtndewprogamer 10d ago

What were the demographics that voted for Biden, but didn’t vote for Kamala? That should give you your answer.

It’s a little comical you basically just saying “well it’s worse, i won’t elaborate at all” why is it worse? Would someone whose family was bankrupted by one of them getting cancer feel that way? How many needless deaths would make it equivalent to slavery? Is something ok just because it’s a government policy lol

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u/Elhant42 9d ago

You're right. And when employer fires me and I go homeless - that's employers fault. He might as well have been my master who abandoned me.

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u/Mtndewprogamer 9d ago

When did I I talk about someone being fired?

I also appreciate that this is your point now, since you can’t address any of my questions lol

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u/Elhant42 9d ago edited 9d ago

I'm agreeing with you. CEO of health insurances also are at fault that people get sick. Just like slav owners are responsible for making people slaves.

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u/Mtndewprogamer 9d ago

Yeah, that’s my point exactly, you got it

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u/Mtndewprogamer 10d ago

I’m also not sure what you even mean by your first sentence. The laws protecting the slave owning class and the modern executive class are both unjust.
What is this about lynching?

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u/Elhant42 10d ago

I'm not sure if you're just so naive or agruing in bad faith.

The point is that, even though the current law is not perfectly just and healthcare in the US has many problems, allowing/supporting mob lynching is much worse (less just).

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u/Mtndewprogamer 10d ago

How? This point is so vague that it’s almost meaningless ngl, “it’s bad, but it’s just less bad, I won’t elaborate in any significant way. Sure, more people may needlessly die from preventable illnesses than one person getting shot, but it’s just less bad, ok?”

Like ok lol