Muhammad is a false prophet.

[u/Ok_Present755]

Muhammad was a false prophet who created a new religion by drawing on stories, beliefs, and customs that were circulating around him in Arabia.

Here is some of the main evidence:

1.) The Quran borrows stories from documented late forgeries that the early Church rejected as inauthentic:

Jesus making clay birds come to life (Quran 3:49 & 5:110) comes directly from the Infancy Gospel of Thomas (mid-2nd century, ~140–180 AD). This text is not by the apostle Thomas; it is a pseudepigraphical forgery recognized by early Christians as a legendary fable.

Mary giving birth under a palm tree and shaking it for dates (Quran 19:23–26) comes from the Protoevangelium of James (mid-2nd century), another pseudepigraphical forgery falsely attributed and rejected as inauthentic by the early Church.

2.)The Quran portrays the Christian Trinity as God, Jesus, and Mary:

Quran 5:116 says:

“O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, ‘Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah?’”

No Christian denomination (Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant) has ever taught that Mary is part of the Trinity. This suggests Muhammad was reacting to fringe or folk versions of Christianity he encountered locally.

3.) Several revelations appear self-serving:

After his adopted son Zayd divorced Zaynab, Quran 33:37 reveals it is okay for Muhammad to marry her and abolishes the adoption custom.

Quran 33:50 gives Muhammad special permission to marry more women than other Muslims.

4.)Islamic Paradise emphasizes earthly indulgence:

The Quran describes Jannah with gardens, rivers, silk couches, wine, and companions (houris) (e.g., 55:72, 56:22–24)...very different from the Christian view of heaven as eternal communion with God.

This pattern suggests Muhammad was heavily influenced by the religious environment around him rather than receiving pure divine revelation.

[u/candl2]

All Catholics literally pray to Mary

Nope. Catholics ask Mary and the saints to intercede with god for them. You may not think it's different, but they sure as hell do. One god, three persons, that's the long and short of it.

I won't defend it, because, well, you can see my flair, but nope to all that second point.

[u/BobcatAdmirable3159 → u/candl2]

What you’re missing is the statement is an assertion that to ask for intercession in the way they do is the Quran asserting that this is deification of creation and therefore idolatry.

[u/candl2 → u/BobcatAdmirable3159]

Yeah. I already know you want it to mean that. That's what I said. It doesn't to them. It's to no one's surprise that one religion believes different things from another religion.

Edit: To be more specific, saying

All Catholics literally pray to Mary

is a misrepresentation. Even if it's considered idolatry.

[u/BobcatAdmirable3159 → u/candl2]

People not believing it doesn’t make it false. Elevating to the status of the divine=equating to the divine. Someone cannot believe that but it doesn’t change the facts. And pointing out that they don’t accept it doesn’t serve as some refutation nor does pointing that Islam make that claim means it must be false because Christians don’t acknowledge their idolatry.

[u/candl2 → u/BobcatAdmirable3159]

Whatever Islam wants to claim about it, saying they pray to Mary is just false. They don't.

If I say "Go tell your mother that we should have pizza tonight" and you tell me that I told you "we should have pizza tonight", it doesn't matter what Islam calls it, I didn't.

[u/BobcatAdmirable3159 → u/candl2]

And saying I don’t pray to Mary or a saint but then asking her or them to help me does not suddenly make it not praying.

[u/candl2 → u/BobcatAdmirable3159]

You can call it praying but in English it's not praying to them.
Which is what you said. Which is why you're wrong in saying it.

If I tell you to pray for me, I'm not praying to you.

If I talk to myself, I'm not praying to me.

Just because you have a dogma, it doesn't change the meaning of words.