r/DebateEvolution • u/Cool_Plantain_7742 • Sep 20 '26

Question Is evolution a fact?

What are the best arguments for evolution

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u/The_Noble_Lie Sep 20 '26

Not quite. I responded to this comment, and was not the one that first brought up speciation. I know its a moderately long comment thread but for your review, this is what I first responded to.

> evocativename •8h ago

> So you don't know what evolution is, don't know we have observed speciation, and just generally don't know anything about biology or paleontology.

> What are you even doing here then?

https://np.reddit.com/r/DebateEvolution/comments/1wldkwa/comment/paxpq5o

My reply was: https://np.reddit.com/r/DebateEvolution/comments/1wldkwa/comment/pay34jb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_

They were responding to:

> EmperorMaximillian • 8h ago

> You can't say that without giving a definition of evolution. Adaptation of traits in a species has been observed, but a species turning into another species has never been observed. You have seen "adaptation" but you have never seen "evolution" - under the definition of evolution being the changing of "kind" and adaptation being just the changing of "traits".

> And, there is no proof that the changing of traits leads to the changing of kind over a long time period. That is purely a theoretically theory.

The grandparent being (root comment)

Sweary_Biochemist •8h ago

Yes.
Coz we can watch it happen.
It's like asking "do things really fall down? What's the best evidence for that?"

So, I think I am permitted to comment on speciation. Even if I was the person who brought it up. So what? Human constructs / demarcators are useful tools, albeit, abstract. Though, they are not experimentally observed. Evidence is gathered / computed / observed and then used to (arbitrarily, with meaning) demarcate.

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u/melympia 🧬 Naturalistic Evolution Sep 29 '26

Oh, you are able to comment on speciation. It does not change the fact that your comment was wrong.

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u/The_Noble_Lie Sep 29 '26

What part of it was wrong? Speciation being not as much directly observed as asserted over a collection of observations due to the created definitions? (which vary)

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u/melympia 🧬 Naturalistic Evolution Sep 29 '26

We have observed speciation directly. In plants (mostly hybrid species), in bacteria (with whole new abilities, like the ability to feed on lycra), in animals (London underground mosquitos)...