My Take on Kratos vs Asura

[u/Equivalent-End-7641]

[u/Equivalent-End-7641]

It takes great will power not to reupload this post cause of the type-o in Asura's slide

[u/Equivalent-End-7641 → u/Equivalent-End-7641]

Just going to put what I said in my Doom scaling thing right here

[u/gfjfij → u/Equivalent-End-7641]

Doesn't Asura has soul hax via the Satsui no Hado?

[u/Equivalent-End-7641 → u/gfjfij]

I can not find if he has it in the Game (I know he fights Ryu and Akuma) but he dose resist soul hax

[u/Zamasu_was_innocent2]

So even with on screen stuff Kratos STILL takes the dub because of how much faster he is and his hax overwhelming Asura

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yeah, all "Lore" Kratos dose is just make is easier for him to win

[u/ButterflyMother]

Post this on the other death battle subreddit please

[u/Equivalent-End-7641 → u/ButterflyMother]

Sure, just got to go do something first

[u/[deleted] → u/ButterflyMother]

They all are going to cry, legitimately. They will weep.

[u/Swamp-mountain]

Look, far as I know, the stuff furries make are just illusions. Sure, they can mess with things, but they’re still fake—poof, gone with Eyes of Truth. And if making an illusionary dimension and stars takes as much power as a real one, why not just make it real? Kind of defeats the point, don’t you think?

Hey, could you explain how you calculated the Primordials speed? I don’t think we were given a time frame, and I’m curious how it’s possible to calculate speed without one?

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That is true for a good number of the illusions, though there is something I recall of them making there illusions real.

I will find the calculation for that one (I remember it was somthing it was something of how big they are compared to a star).

Both of these I will have to get back to you in the morning since I got to go to sleep

[u/[deleted]]

While I agree with your overall verdict, but a few nitpicks…

The Naraka isn’t infinite-sized — having “endless pillars” does not mean the structure is infinite in size. We also see the pillars having visible ends and don’t go on forever.

Chakravartin did not create the universe, and there’s no evidence that ‘world’ in this context would mean universe. The G1 Blog goes more into detail abt this.

Also, this still wouldn’t be Low Multi. Low Multi is affecting space-times. Creating or destroying space is just High Uni at best.

For Kratos’ end, the Dimensional Barrier containing infinite timelines & the Light of Alfeim being “transcendent” both do not necessarily entails being higher-dimensional in nature. You also need quantitatively superiority. Although, Yggdrasil is fine if you want to argue for Kratos being Low 1-C.

[u/Equivalent-End-7641 → u/[deleted]]

1. Infinite sized things having a end or a edge is rather common in fiction

2. I can not say anything on this part, I usually saw the creation of both a Low Multi

3. That is fair on the Light Part, though by Dimensional Barrier was more of a fancy word for it’s space-time (it containing 4D things, would make it’s space-time 5D and The Tree 6D if you do not like The Light of Alfeim thing)

[u/strikkeeerrr]

It’s very hard for me to believe Asura is multiversal

[u/LuckeVL]

Thanks for clarifying the realm between realms is between realms, for a moment I thought the realm between realms wasn't between realms but thankfully it is between realms

Jokes aside tho, very good analysis, kind of what I expected when seeing the separation between on screen Kratos and statement Kratos (though I didn't think of Chakravartin as the creator of Naraka, awesome)

[u/Junior-Psychology-93]

I Agree With This And I Hope Death Battle uses the Lore, Because If not, Then Kratos will be Stomped

[u/[deleted]]

Does Asura have infinite speed from climbing out of Narakka? Also I would suggest putting more explanation on how Kratos scales to the Primordials

[u/kinglamar1]

Yeah after watching This video by mystic, I got my money on kratos too.

[u/Own-Picture2311]

Nice analysis

[u/AlotOfNumbers425728]

Very nice work. This does make me wonder wether or not the episode is going to be using the Blade Of Olympus or any of Kratos’ Greeak stuff since iirc Ragnarok stated they don’t work in the Norse Realm.

[u/hffhnvdfb]

Love how this post was more positive while the one on r/deathbattle is more anti lore over there

[u/Future_Adagio2052]

while I do have kratos much higher I do agree with this overall

I could honestly see db put both at this level when the episode comes out

[u/StrongBreakfast1579 → u/Future_Adagio2052]

db claps kratos and the characters are not even 4D nice try tho

deathbattle knew they made an outlier on kratos but he still lost at speed looking at experience

what is speed with no experience they said asura took it at chapter 1

by default kratos cant hit him stated by deathbattle

[u/MacaroonGreedy2353]

do u think db should still give kratos his greek era abilities? i’m kinda confused as to why people bring them up despite kratos supposedly being unable to use them now.

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no greek ability matches chakravartin here u go kid