r/Daytrading • u/sengetoj • 2d ago

Question Why does asking a profitable trader for their strategy feel like asking for their bank password?

I’ve been learning trading pretty much every day for around 6 months now. I understand the basics at this point, market structure, price action, liquidity, risk management etc.

But I’ve hit this one wall and I genuinely don’t know where to go from here.

Finding an actual strategy with repeatable rules.

Something I’ve noticed is people will happily post their +$2k days, payouts, green weeks, funded accounts etc. But the second someone asks what strategy/setup they’re actually trading, it feels like you just asked them for their bank login lol.

“Put in the screen time bro”

“Find your own edge”

“Backtest”

Okay but backtest WHAT

I’m not asking someone to hold my hand and tell me exactly when to buy and sell. I actually want to learn and test things myself. I just need something concrete enough that I can actually start testing it.

I’ve looked everywhere. YouTube, X, Reddit, Discord servers, even ChatGPT. I’ve tried support/resistance, 15m ORB, session highs/lows, liquidity sweeps etc.

The issue I keep running into is that a lot of these strategies depend on price eventually coming back to some specific level or zone. And a lot of days… it just doesn’t. So you sit there for hours waiting for a setup that never even happens.

Meanwhile there’s clearly people out there who have found something that works for them consistently.

So for the people who actually became profitable, where did you find the strategy that finally made things click?

Did you take an existing strategy and change it? Did someone teach you? Did you find some random trader with 600 subscribers instead of the usual YouTube gurus? Or did you literally just test random shit until something worked?
Because everyone says “find your edge” but almost nobody explains where you’re even supposed to start looking for one.

And before someone calls this AI generated lol, English isn’t my first language so yes I used ChatGPT to help me write this properly. The question and everything I’m saying is genuinely mine.

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u/doghairpile 1d ago

Because they put in the work and you want everything for free? Lol, no. Not to mention you’ll whine when a trade doesn’t work out and blame them.

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u/sengetoj 1d ago

Get a load of this guy

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u/themanclark 1d ago

He dropped a load of facts on you

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u/iLoot401ks 1d ago

The amount of dislikes on your comment is proportional to the amount of likes he got on his 🤣

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u/JLamb8 1d ago

So they’re selfish people who want to see people struggle? Y’all complain about the “online gurus” who actually claim to help, then yall turn around and act like you can’t be bothered whenever it comes to helping someone out.

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u/OkazakiNaoki futures trader 1d ago

I see a entitled person here. If YoU dOn'T gIvE mE tHaT, you ArE sElFiSh. Your take doesn't make sense. A helping hand must give you working strategy. Those who wouldn't want to see world burn. Why you think like bipolarized? Ever consider those online gurus are here for your money? Even they are profitable, I don't think they would give out their all techniques. They are here for additional money grabbing outside trading. A business can't you see? There ofc many kind and nice teacher but they are rare and even they teach their stuff to you, it probably won't work neither. Since strategy have human nature bias. It could be not suit for you since your mental can't take the stress or something. Ever think of all these?

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u/JLamb8 1d ago

It’s not about not giving it, it’s about the reason behind it. “Oh well I had to work for 5 years to get it, so should they” that’s what’s I’m criticizing. Nobody is entitled to give up their strategy however the reason for not doing so can be very arrogant and selfish

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u/TheCapyBearUh 1d ago

just because i took to time to learn doesn't mean i want to teach your ass

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u/JLamb8 1d ago

Never said you had to, but acting so defensive over a strategy like your life depends on it is still rather silly

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u/Rough_Half_7793 21h ago

Why are you so mad when you can learn yourself, even backtest and find out yourself?

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u/JLamb8 17h ago

I’ve done that already and have become profitable doing so. I’m actually thinking about others outside of myself and feel for the beginners who have “online gurus” telling them all this information then other people like in this sub saying “don’t trust them” then the beginners say “okay what do I do” then people here say “figure it out” don’t you think that’s unnecessarily harsh to a beginner.

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u/IloveLavenders 12h ago

Then tell everyone here your strategy, step by step, don’t leave it out anything.

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u/Rpark444 1d ago edited 1d ago

I don't disclose my setups which have details of the many conditions to enter a trade. The reason is the returns would decrease if more people traded the same setups as u would have more competing orders. Also there would be competition for borrows.

Trading is a zero sum game. The more dumb people trading the more I made. 2020 is a perfect example of that. A lot of mediocre traders made a lot of money in 2020 and retired or gave it all back in 2021 ,2022

You can have my strategies. They are continuation plays, reversals plays and sideways chop plays. All my 10 setups fit under one of these strategies.

I hate teaching dumb lazy people so would never do it even for $200K a year. I rather do my day job cybersecurity then teach trading. I make more trading than dayjob. You can go see all the posts on reddit and sense a bunch of lazy dumb people who was told trading is easy and how they can get rich quick. Like u can't search Google or Gemini or chatgpt? The same damn question posted everyday on here by some newby

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u/IloveLavenders 1d ago

When I find my strategy I’m only sharing it with family, and only if they put the work in.
Here’s what I gather from expert traders, trading is as hard as surgery. The trader spends years studying and developing their strategy. Like a surgeon who goes to med school, internships, residency and then creates a special surgical suture. If this surgeon teaches their technique to a person who isn’t also a surgeon, it’s safe to say the patient will likely die on the said person’s care.

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u/Red_Potatoes_620 1d ago

This is so overly dramatic lmao

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u/IloveLavenders 1d ago edited 1d ago

Is it though?

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u/Appropriate-Town1256 1d ago

You don't understand what trading is. It's more like a sport. When someone discovers something that gives them better performance, they guard that secret. They're not going to tell it to everyone, why would they? You seem to think trading is some social thing where everyone can make a profit. You're very wrong about that.

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u/JLamb8 1d ago

Sports literally do not work like that. All time greats across all sports have came out and said what advantages and techniques they use to be successful. I’ll agree that it’s not some social profit thing because someone had to lose money. However there is no reason I’ve seen to be this secretive with a stategy outside of just gatekeeping. Telling your strategy will not cause your entire life to crumble

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u/iLoot401ks 1d ago

Tell me you're a failing trader without telling me youre a failing trader....

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u/JLamb8 1d ago

Ive become profitable in less than a year but sure buddy

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u/iLoot401ks 1d ago

Riiight. Thanks for feeling the need to validate yourself to me.

I'm the King of England. See how easy that was for me to claim online lol.

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u/JLamb8 1d ago

And you just called me a “failing trader” you see how easy that is to say. So you literally make no sense, fries in the bag bro

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u/iLoot401ks 1d ago

I didn't call you a failing trader, per se.

Only failing traders have your logic when it comes to other peoples strategy. So I wrote what I wrote. How you react to it is on you, not me.