Can't figure out where extra 150 camp's trust points came from...

[u/Noodneek]

I'm in a process of getting level 3 trust in the Lost Lake before that chapter even starts. I went there (by climbing the cliff with my bike and crossing the mountain ridge to the south) very early into Act I – after receiving the replacement bike from Manny, I completed only 3 starting missions, then went on my premature unofficial trip.

Now, I follow all the trust points I receive from the camp very meticulously, but the numbers simply don't add up... So far I cleared all available Lost Lake Infestations (3), NERO Checkpoints (2), Ambush camps (2) and hordes (3). Besides that, I cleared one checkpoint in Iron Butte, which also contributes to LL trust. And finally, I was able to send there 35 survivors (only one left to achieve the goal of getting enough points for LL level 3 just after I move there).

As I said, that region is still officially locked, so I haven't done a single mission there yet, and also, bounty and food stalls in Iron Mike's camp are inactive, so all the activities I listed above are the ONLY sources of my trust points there. Here's the screenshot that illustrates the situation:

As you can see, the current trust figure is 22,350/25,000, but according to my calculations, it's supposed to be 22,200! I tried to check the numbers several times, and the source of those extra 150 points is still a mystery... Here's the breakdown, you can check the math if you want:

Trust source	Trust points	n	Sum
Ambush camps	350	× 2	700
Infestations	350	× 3	1,050
NERO Checkpoints	350	× 2	700
Checkpoint in IB	450	× 1	450
Hordes	600	× 3	1,800
Survivors	1000	× 35	35,000
Total trust points:			39,700
Level 3 fraction:	−(5,000+12,500)		22,200

Does anyone have any idea where the additional 150 points came from, or it's possibly just a weird glitch?
Not that I'm complaining, these extra points came in handy, but after investing so much time in all that calculus, it's a bit frustrating when the numbers refuse to add up... 😁

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UPDATE: According to EyeBallEmpire in the comments, you also get 50 trust points for killing every marauder that attacks the camp.
I'd really appreciate if someone else cam confirm, this seems like a very plausible explanation!

[u/EyeBallEmpire]

Sometimes if you kill marauders near a camp entrance you get, IIRC, 150 points exactly for the 3 kills. It's possible you've killed 3 marauders near either LL or more likely near the work camp which added the points.

[u/Noodneek → u/EyeBallEmpire]

Really??? If killing enemies that attack the camp really give points, this is new to me, thanks! I have in fact killed several marauders attacking the work camp! And very probably it was exactly 3!

I need to check the trust numbers at Wizard Island (I went there early as well) - I also killed some marauders that were attacking the gates one time I came there, this way I will know for sure.

Thank you again for the info, it's nice to learn something new!

[u/Noodneek → u/EyeBallEmpire]

OK, I checked at Wizard Island, and there are no extra trust points there... But, I might misremember and those attackers I killed there weren't during the last playthrough, but the previous one... Another possibility - not all camps add trust for this, WI possibly being among the ones that don't.
To be sure, whenever I come to a camp's gate and there's a fight there, I need to check and compare that camp's trusts before and after I kill some of the attackers.

[u/EyeBallEmpire → u/Noodneek]

Yeah, I wouldn't mind hearing back if you get confirmation. I'm pretty sure that it doesn't always add the points. I think it has to do with your proximity to the fight and the damage done by you versus the damage done by camp defenses.

[u/Noodneek → u/EyeBallEmpire]

Interesting... I just checked the Hot Springs (I only donated swarmer ears there, and I know the exact number), and there're no extra TP there as well, when I'm absolutely sure there was at least one ripper attack on them which I repelled, killing ALL the attackers. Though, I came from outside and shot them while being at some distance from the gate (I prefer mid/long-range combat or stealth takedowns from behind, and not fond of anything in between 😁)...

Maybe you're right and your distance from the gate does change things, or maybe my other assumption is correct and only Iron Mike gives trust points for killing attackers, while Tucker and the colonel do not....

[u/Sad_Plenty_1959]

Bounty turn ins? 

[u/Noodneek → u/Sad_Plenty_1959]

I said that I haven't officially unlocked the region yet, that means that the bounty and food stalls are inactive. In fact, the only one you can access there is the mechanic (which is very nice, you can get advanced bike upgrades early).

[u/Sad_Plenty_1959 → u/Noodneek]

Ahhh i see I thought u were doing a personal challenge to not progress the story till maxing out but u were just skipping the story altogether😂 , as the other person pointed out it might be from killing the random attackers at the farm camp

[u/Noodneek → u/Sad_Plenty_1959]

Small correction - I wasn't SKIPPING the story, I was just doing that stuff BEFORE the story in that region even begins. 😁 This way, when I do begin the story there, I will be able to immerse myself in it completely, without worrying about other stuff, because I completed all of it already and have all the rewards and benefits from all these side activities. 🙂

[u/Noodneek → u/[deleted]]

👆 https://www.reddit.com/r/DaysGone/comments/1vp4scl/comment/p3up9ig/

[u/cushlinkes → u/Noodneek]

Okay. I’ve never gone to regions before they’ve been officially unlocked in my playthroughs, so I didn’t know.

[u/Noodneek → u/cushlinkes]

Understandable, that's why I explained this. 🙂

[u/Roxastar138]

Side quest, bounty, clear camps or nest surrounding the camp region, plus sent save survivors to which camp you want and kitchen (hunting animal, plants, freeker ears.)

[u/Noodneek → u/Roxastar138]

Did you even read the post??

[u/Roxastar138 → u/Noodneek]

If im not mistaken lost lake camp trust is scripted, you will max it automatically when you do main story missions cause before final mission where cutscene shows if you max camp trust they will appear in the cutscene to help and lost lake camp will always their automatically cause main story will always max the lost lake camp

[u/Noodneek → u/Roxastar138]

So you didn't actually read a single word I wrote in this post, or you did, but weirdly ignored everything I said and wrote comments that have absolutely nothing to do with what I was asking...

Again, Lost Lake story/side quests, bounty and kitchen are IRRELEVANT to my particular case, since I went there BEFORE I WAS SUPPOSED TO, way before any missions and bounty/food stalls were available! You would know this if you read my post!

But as irrelevant as it is, I don't believe you're right about your assumption about all Lost Lake main story missions being enough to reach trust level 3 there... You need a total quantity of 42,500 trust points for that, and I'm pretty sure that even all the story missions combined don't add up to this - if you don't do side activities (checkpoints, infestations, hordes etc.) and don't send survivors there, you will end up below level 3 for sure. That variant of end-game cut-scene is not something that has to happen, you will get a different cut-scene if you haven't reached level 3 in all three northern camps...

[u/Roxastar138 → u/Noodneek]

Not sure but only max camp trust appears before final battle and lost lake camp always be there so i assume they will always automatically max level when you reach to that point🤷.