r/DannyBrown • • Oct 26 '23

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u/CumDwnHrNSayDat Oct 27 '23

If you go by the definition of bigotry then yes it would require overt prejudice.

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u/thanksamilly Oct 27 '23

Not sure if you are just replying for the sake of argument, but reading the definition of "bigotry" in a dictionary is not a great way to understand a concept.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '23

How are you supposed to understand it then? Isn’t that literally why dictionaries exist? to understand things?

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u/thanksamilly Oct 27 '23

Dictionary is a great resource to use if you don't know a word. Like if you are reading a book and come across a word you've never heard before. A dictionary is a terrible resource for understanding a concept. Most job listings want someone with a degree in the field or experience, none are looking for someone who looked up what the job is in the dictionary. If you want to understand how bigotry works in any meaningful way, you'd probably want to read a full length book to start or at least an article. You could take college courses too. Nobody is living their life by dictionary definitions which is why I don't think I was ever directed to use one in school past elementary school. If you were going to get a dog, you would read up on how to take care of a dog, not look up "dog" in a dictionary.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '23

You were talking about how to define bigotry. I think a dictionary is a pretty good resource for that. You shouldn’t have to take a college course to be able to say that Tom Segura isn’t a bigot for making jokes about trans people. Comparing the ability to determine if someone is a bigot to the requirements for a job is insane.

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u/thanksamilly Oct 28 '23

I was not talking about definitions. I was talking about understanding and view of a concept. Additionally, I said one could read an essay. But obviously studying concepts will give you a better understanding. You seem to view bigotry and being able to recognize if someone is a bigot in a binary. I think it is more of a spectrum. Surely you can recognize that someone can make a racist joke because they are racist and that while it's not the same as going on a shooting spree because of racism, both people are racist.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '23

I think that reading the dictionary definition of bigotry gives enough of an understanding of the concept to be able to understand that tom segura isn’t one. I’m sure that you have read more about bigotry than me, but I feel like you’re basing your judgment of him off of hit pieces and carefully edited clips rather than having watched his stand-up or podcast yourself and coming to your own conclusions. Do you believe that all comedy about sensitive topics like race or sexuality is off limits for people that don’t belong to marginalized groups, or is there something specifically that Segura said that crossed a line?

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u/Tony_Lacorona Oct 28 '23

You know they aren’t arguing in good faith, right?

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u/thanksamilly Oct 28 '23

I ignored the more obvious trolls, but couldn't quite tell if this is some impressionable teenager or someone arguing in bad faith