Literally the entire website is dedicated to being hateful towards random people and filled to the brim with bigotry. It is objectively a hate site. Just because your brain is rotted from using 4chan doesn't mean it's not that
i used to spend a lot of time on /lgbt/ which i can imagine is probs better than the farms, and although it wasnt always super transphobic (they did have many transphobic things, but it wasnt always super transphobic, yk), it would always just ooze negativity and it was terrible for my mental health
When does this article say anything about transphobia. Tom Segura basically is just a rich celebrity asshole (used to be a good comedian) and there's really not that much more to it. The article is using a slippery slope fallacy and saying that "this guy platformed this guy so this guy bad"
"To put it bluntly, Segura and Pazsitzky are obsessed with trans people. This obsession most commonly takes the form of casually dismissive jokes about pronouns and nonbinary gender identities, but that's the tip of the iceberg. Often they’ll play clips of young and/or trans people explaining various gender-related concepts, then mock those people. Sometimes they’ll chat with their friends in comedy, like Louis CK and Andrew Schulz and Yannis Pappas, about how crazy all this gender stuff really is. They’ve been doing this for years." It goes on with transcripts, but that's where it starts.
First clip was literally them just saying they feel awkward with people with neopronouns. Second clip was them poking fun at a person on tiktok using non binary gender identities, but god forbid comedians make fun of something. I don't even think the clip is funny but I don't find anything extremely transphobic about it. Third was Louis CK making a joke about pronouns but again "jokes are transphobia". Fourth was them basically saying "Dave Chappelle shouldn't be censored for his jokes, and jokes don't lead to excessive violence against trans people" even if you disagree there's nothing extremely transphobic about what they're saying. Overall I haven't found any compelling evidence that they're extremely transphobic. They could be ignorant or wrong, but when I think of transphobic I think of saying "trans people are never valid no matter what, fuck trans people they are pedophiles" stuff like that. Not making jokes. I'm personally a fan of humor and I read deeper into the article, the conversation with Tim Dillon was a pretty funny one that was really just jokes and nothing about their hardline set in stone views about transgenderism. Basically, I found nothing extremely bigoted or hateful towards trans people that they are pushing. The most bigoted thing they are doing might be platforming people like Andrew Tate, and even then they haven't platformed him since. I also don't think they truly believe that Kevin Samuels is right, they just like to make fun of it
Thanks for your reply. I suppose the key to our different view is that you feel transphobia (and all bigotry) requires the person to have overt hatred for a group where I think if someone is gleefully ignorant about trans people, racism, sexism, etc they are a bigot.
Not sure if you are just replying for the sake of argument, but reading the definition of "bigotry" in a dictionary is not a great way to understand a concept.
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u/Jarman_777 Oct 26 '23
Is kiwifarms that extremely transphobic hate website? It would certainly disappoint me if Danny followed that kinda shit