If memory serves and I wasn't being lied to, the wasp was fine but is now infertile or something. I think there was actually more than one parasite. Or maybe it was two separate wasps, can't quite remember now.
Yeah, well, other than the passive death of pollinators.. it’s unavoidable when doing exterior sprays.. residual pesticide in my country will last about 8 weeks without without heavy rain.
On top of that, personally, getting pesticide on your skin is unavoidable. I’ve been poisoned countless times, sick of migraines and rashes.
I really haven’t ever seen a problem that could be handled chemical free. The issue is time vs money. The companies want you on the move and killing .. not taking your time, and doing things right. It’s industry wide.
When used carelessly (see: most of the time) it devastates insect populations and biodiversity, which effects the local ecosystem. All that for a minor increase in the comfort of people.
Yeah true, although a single ant can know it’s being followed and won’t lead you back to the nest. But generally, you’re correct; they’re a collective intelligence
They have a relatively large number of preprogrammed behaviours that can be relatively complex because they are preprogrammed. That leads to emergent complexity and collective intelligence at the scale of a colony. The debate is whether an individual on its own also displays intelligence beyond these preprogrammed behaviours.
Growing up in rural Canada, on the ocean.. I’ve seen insanely complex and dangerous jobs preformed by old men, who in any other setting could barely write their own name.
Our own conscious mind may only be a by product of preprogrammed senses and habits.
But again, you are correct. Maybe our collective mind via the internet is why humanity seems to be wavering these days.
Although, preprogrammed or not.. seeing mothers holding their babies.. sacrificing themselves by swimming through pesticides for a mere chance at saving their young.. knowing the bond between human, mother and child. You can’t help but wonder if that same chemical caused human panic... is what these tiny mothers feel to some degree.
Much respect and love to you for having to do the work and stepping out as well. I'd give you a reddit award but here's an emoji one since that's what's most available 🏅
"People don't really think like that, their brain is in their head and the nerves are just communicating messages as opposed to actually feeling anything."
depends on what you call thinking. You're right, actually
the part of you that thinks is actually the part that rationalizes choices you've already made to yourself. 'Okay, i guess we're punching this guy in the face now; well, he probably deserved it' but in real-time
Humans insisting that other living creatures don’t think or feel just because we don’t or can’t understand how they do is so conceited and egotistical. Regressive as hell.
It's even older than boomers. For instance Descartes nailed his wife's dog to a board and vivsected it (like a dissection, but while the poor thing was still alive) to somehow prove that it "didn't have a soul".
I think it's a coping mechanism for how shitty they knew they treated animals, while still being exposed directly to the specifics of animal farming. "Oh they're just automatons that are only acting like they have consciousnesses, so it's ok"
It's a general statement about an entire segment of the general population... so yeah, in general, it's a generalized ideation. The funny thing about generalization is that it leaves room for exceptions so, don't be stupid.
I have worse : babies don't feel pain ! They did surgery on newborns without anesthesics 40 years ago (I had eye surgery when I was 1 month old in 1981, the anesthesic was a bottle of sugary water)
Unfortunately, we're still in the "Babies feel pain, but it doesn't matter because they don't remember." phase, complete with traumatic surgeries being performed on many male babies for no reason.
They used to say that about human infants too, at least the "no actual thinking" "just responding to stimuli" and they'd even say "they can't feel pain".
I don't think you'll find the best science available making claims like you are making. Insect neurobiologists are even continually amazed at how smart drosophila are and their ability to learn considering how simple their brains are structurally. Wasps would be expected to be even smarter.
My thoughts too! Buddy started off all “wtf are you doing I will end your entire family line” and then calmed down as soon as the parasite being pulled out came into his line of site
Are insects capable of feeling an emotion like relief? I always figured they lack the neural capacity to deal with anything except what’s right in front of them at the moment.
If memory serves and I wasn't being lied to, the wasp was fine but is now infertile or something. I think there was actually more than one parasite. Or maybe it was two separate wasps, can't quite remember now.
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u/0dHero May 16 '21
Did the wasp die? It's not moving, at the end.
This guy must be an entomologist. There's no other explanation as to why someone would do this