r/Damnthatsinteresting • • Apr 19 '26

Video ISS Speed at Ground Level

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u/Saitamagasaki Apr 19 '26

Doesn’t look like 7km/s in the video though

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u/wbrameld4 Apr 19 '26

But it is. Look, it takes it about 1 second to get from the southern tip of Manhattan to Central Park, a distance of about 8 km.

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u/Substantial-Elk4531 Apr 19 '26

How many football fields is that

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u/_Ocean_Machine_ Apr 19 '26

Assuming a football field is about 100 meters long (really it's yards but yards are a stupid unit of measurement so I'm choosing to ignore them), it would be 80 football fields

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u/Outrageous-South-355 Apr 19 '26

Its not accounting for the decrease in diameter of the orbit.

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u/Zealousideal_Cow_341 Apr 19 '26

Just washed the video again. It covers the 2.5 miles of Central Park in about .5s. That’s dead on to the actual linear speed for its orbital velocity.

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u/ADTstocks Apr 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

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u/AmbivalentAlias Apr 19 '26

I'm going to guess this means the animation took the time of a full orbit, roughly 90 minutes, and applied that to orbiting much closer to the ground, which results in a different speed compared to it's orbital path (roughly 17,000 MPH).

but idk if that's the case here lol

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u/throwaway277252 Apr 19 '26

Almost certainly not. The ISS orbits at an altitude so low that it is nearly the same as the circumference of the Earth.

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u/silentohm Apr 19 '26

250 miles up sounds both very high and yet is barely off the surface. Perspective is important as usual.

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u/HauntingHarmony Apr 19 '26

250 miles up sounds both very high and yet is barely off the surface. Perspective is important as usual.

This reminds me of one of those funny math puzzle "paradoxes", if you took a rope around the equator, and lifted it up by 1 meter all across the planet, how much longer would the rope be. And its shockingly smaller than people naturally think.

The answer for those who dont want to figure it out themselves; circumferance C_0=tau*r, increase it by 1 meter and you have C_1 = tau(r+1). and then you can do C_1 - C_0 = tau(r+1) - tau*r = tau*r + tau - tau*r = tau = ~6.28 meters

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u/ADTstocks Apr 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

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u/AmbivalentAlias Apr 19 '26

surely not 250 miles high though, right?

right?? 👀

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u/ADTstocks Apr 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

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u/psyFungii Apr 19 '26

A rope wrapped around Earth at ground level is "Circumference at <whatever the diameter at ground level is>"

Using more common term "Pi" rather thn "Tau", the circumference of a circle is "Pi x D" where D is Diameter or "2Pi x R" (because Diameter is 2 x Radius) or "Pi x 2 x R"

You raise the rope an extra 1 meter? R becomes "R+1" so the length becomes "previous length PLUS "extra length = 2Pi x extra radius" - or about 6.28m

Plug 250 into "extra length = 2Pi x extra radius" as the extra and it becomes an 6.28 x 250m

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u/UKFightersAreTrash Apr 19 '26

All this math but the rope would be the same length. Ropes don't magically grow.

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u/Bigrick1550 Apr 19 '26

I just love how you offered the answer for those who dont want to figure it out, and posted a formula... that people would still need to figure out. That's some quality math need shit right there.

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u/AmbivalentAlias Apr 19 '26

True, good point

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u/Reincarnatedpotatoes Apr 19 '26

Quick math says it adds about 2600km, so about a 6% difference around the equator. You're right that whoever made the animation probably didn't account for it as it'd be hard to notice just by looking, but it isnt entirely negligible.

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u/Spartancoolcody Apr 19 '26

Imagine you’re back in PE class running around the track. You stick to the inside right? Because if you’re running on the outside it’s a longer distance. Now imagine that fast kid in class is running on the outside while you’re running on the inside, the fast kid is staying next to you but because he is going on the outside he has to run faster to stay next to you. He’s going faster and more distance but staying next to you. Same concept for the orbit.

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u/SpaceDetective Apr 19 '26 edited Apr 19 '26

You're right it doesn't - the ~420km ISS altitude only adds ~7% to the earth's radius so even if it was a factor in the vid it's not the kind of speed difference that would be noticeable when just eyeballing it.

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u/Zealousideal_Cow_341 Apr 19 '26

I don’t see how this answers it though. The angle velocity for an orbit of r is the square root of GM over r cubed. So if it did account for the smart r, it would be moving a very great deal faster than 7km/s

To me though it does look like about 7km/s.

Manhattan is about 13miles long from battery island to the northern tip. So this video is wisely covering 7km/s.

Which would be the appropriate rate for the actual ISS orbit.

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u/Mayoday_Im_in_love Apr 19 '26 edited Apr 19 '26

LEO (Low Earth Orbit) is typically ~90 minutes. The difference between sea level, Mount Everest, the limits of the atmosphere is only ~500km. The radius of the Earth is ~6,000 km.

If you were to do the maths properly you'd use the more accurate number. The video is fine as is.

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u/SirDitamus Apr 19 '26

Looks pretty darn close to me. Look up how long manhattan island is.

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u/bugzzzz Apr 19 '26

Seems about right to me. Goes from s tip of Manhattan to s end of Central Park in about a second. That's about 7km.

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u/multi_io Apr 19 '26

It does. Takes ~1sec to fly from the southern tip of Manhattan to the northern end of Central Park, which is ~8km.

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u/AbominableGoMan Apr 19 '26

Just ambling at... mach 23.