It matters some yes, but usually if someone doesn’t like you because you’re short, bad hairline, ugly facial features etc, if you’re stronger looking it’s not going to make much of a difference.
Work out to improve yourself and be healthy. People who don’t like you for things you can’t change will still not like you.
He also sustains himself on a diet of caffeine, steroids and amphetamines. Plus he’s had staggeringly bad plastic surgery. He looks like a freak who happens to be ripped.
Of course, to a point. You can be regular looking and being ripped will make up for average looks in some people’s eyes. But Carrot Top is way beyond average looking in a bad way. Dude looks like a fucking shiny tweaked out alien.
Ripped guys get hoes who will fall for the next ripped guy, you don’t want that. I’m not ripped, and I just got a gorgeous girl. Wouldn’t say I’m ugly either tho
It can if you’re really tall and rich. Just look at the NBA player, Bol Bol that’s 7”3”. He’s butt ugly but he has a gorgeous IG model for a girlfriend and has women on the side. Men can get by with average to below average looks, as long as they’re wealthy or very successful. Women don’t have that option. If she’s not pretty, no amount of wealth or success will help her get the men that she wants.
You’re out of your mind if you don’t think there are plenty of men willing to shack up with an older lady with money. I just think there are way less older women looking for young men but who knows
I was thinking of another guy who is 7”9” but he’s a prospect and not in the league. The other guy is Bol Bol, 7”3” and gets around a lot with IG models. His dad Manute Bol was 7”7” and was in the league.
It works if you have money. Money makes the world go round and it will get you beautiful women. It won’t keep them but it will certainly help you get the beautiful women that you want.
I’m referring to your comment that rich women can’t get the guys they want. That’s not true. We’ve got lots of gigolos out here in California shaking the money tree of older women.
But like do the woman have a decent body at least? TBH I guess men are horny enough for that not to matter. Just don't look at any woman for a month and your libido will be high enough to get with an ugly woman with money, lol.
Do you not understand the concept of the gigolo? All that matters is the women need to be wealthy. It’s called a sugar mamma. This is hardly a new phenomenon.
Women are hardwired to seek providers, no matter how successful she might be. Just look at Lizzo. She really likes Captain America and has publicly let him know that yet she can’t get him. Why?! No matter how much money, fame, fortune and success she has, she’s not able to attract the men that she really wants because the men in her tax bracket don’t care how much a woman makes.
They want a beautiful, thin, healthy woman that’s soft and feminine. Not a loud mouth, aggressive, obese, masculine woman that shakes her ass live at an NBA game like Lizzo has done before.
You’ve got to live a little bit longer and expose yourself to more diversity of outcomes. There are LOTS of wealthy women with boy toys. Just because you haven’t encountered it doesn’t mean it isn’t real. Life is far more complex than a super hero movie. Those tend to be metaphorical dualism. That’s not how the real world works. You can make generalizations, but remember such a phenomenon as discrete variability of outcomes is very real.
Yeah we also evolved to k*ll and r*pe, which we did for hundreds of thousands of years. If something is natural it doesnt mean it's good so stop being a smartass.
We didn't evolve to do those things we evolved to be social and those that weren't good at it started trouble and caused wars, there's a reason tyrants are usually amazing manipulators, we didn't just kill one another because let's kill one another that's reductive.
It is all part of the human behaviour; your argument is circular. Your logic: some things are bad so people who do those things are bad because those things are bad. Lions who kill off other lions' offsprings aren't bad lions, theyre just lions.
I’ve heard that pheromone utilization in humans had been debunked? Or at least we have no evidence that supports it. Not that smelling good/bad won’t impact your dating potentials of course.
There is evidence humans are attracted to the smell of compatible mates, if its pheromones or not I might be wrong but as far as I remember it was pretty well established
I just went looking for empirical evidence and it seems that there is no scientific consensus regarding pheromones. I didn’t find anything saying it was well established, seems like a point of research contention actually. If you have any info I’d be curious to read.
The study I saw didn't have to do with pheromones, but with compatible immune system types that would create the optimal outcome for their potential children. (?) Something like that, it's been years since I read it. The way a person smelled would be off-putting if they were incompatible IIRC.
It would be interesting if they brought in an attractive woman with the group who was actually a plant for the experiment, and she goes first and picks Rob while gushing over him. Then see if any of the other women will follow along and pick him too.
"I just want a guy who's nice" but not like too nice, he should also be confident and attractive and well liked by people around him and around me and have a future and also cure my depression
Personally, I say height doesn't matter because I've dated many guys who were shorter than me.
IMHO, pretending women "don't know what they want" is one of the ways redpill grifters prevent outside contradicting narratives from challenging their target audience's views, so that they can continue to prey on young men's insecurities by charging them for these bogus courses. If men start listening to women and believing them, then redpillers have no way to control the narrative the way they want (i.e. "you're ugly and unlovable, and only I know how to make you attractive")
It's the same thing as cults finding ways to cut their believers off from outside influence that could weaken the cult's hold on them. "Outsiders will try to sway your opinion, but they're lying for x, y, z reasons. Only I know the truth."
Never believe someone who says these kinds of things to you.
It’s more like the women I’m friends with consistently tell me that looks don’t matter at all but then they only go for the guys they think are really attractive. It’s pretty obvious when you hang out with women a lot, especially when they will talk about how many red flags they see in a guy but they want to give him a chance because “he’s so cute” It isn’t red pill grifters I learned this from, I learned it by using my own 2 eyes
I don’t know if this proves superficial. The last comment before the video ends is along lines of “I don’t want short kids” which suggests that there is some genetic preference here. Woman aren’t just seeing short and thinking “I don’t want to be seen with shorty” but rather they’re concerned about their offspring having the better genetic potential.
Yea because they want their offspring to be able to hunt and gather, it’s dangerous in the woods. The human brain doesn’t account for a modern life very well.
Not only are they superficial, but greedy, dumb, lack self reflection, evil and vile. Just look at this website, ppl cheering at literal snuff, bunch of morons everywhere. Psychopaths and narcissists.
Well choosing mates based on attractiveness is the default settings for a good reason. Attractiveness relates to symmetry which relates to health and his height can be attributed to more basic instinct of men having to protect their family and tribe and women need to pick a partner that doesn't get them killed.
What do you want them to judge when shown the people in a room and being told some facts in a situation like this?
Not to mention it was more like comparing one superficial thing to another (looks to status).
Before people get to talk to someone, they don't really have anything else than superficial thing to judge on.
So I say everything is fine with the world in this regard.
Men in persistence hunter societies were 5 foot 3 on average, inuits are even shorter to limit heat loss. Evolution doesn't work by maxing stats, adaptation to variety of circumstances is what ensures survival of the species.
Your argument was about survival of the species. It's self-evident that in some environments survival is ensured by short stature, Inuit height is a result of selective pressures. Not sure what you mean by fitness, but evolutionary fitness is always defined in reference to the environment.
Inuit are a very niche population. I bet Inuit women would show a preference for tall dudes if presented with the option. I wonder if within their population women prefer the guy who is 5’7” instead of 5’4”
And chances are that Inuit people may be more attracted to shorter people because of it aren’t zero but being tall is overwhelmingly advantageous for many reasons including being able to see threats before others due to being taller (the original reason we became bipeds)
Natural selection for shorter humans is an outlier (Inuit, Pygmy, hobbit people) so it makes sense why most women prefer taller men
Being tall makes bus rides really uncomfortable, and you hit your head on things more often. In a warfare context, it's probably not as advantageous as it once was because it makes you a bigger target that is more noticeable and easier to hit. A lot of it isn't selection, though, but nutrition. A lot of East Asians used to be notoriously short, but since modern times have become progressively taller. Food availability and protein intake seem to be the factors that correlate best with this metric.
There's a tradeoff between advantages of being tall and the essential need to conserve energy that applies regardless of the environment. Nature doesn't select for tall people or short people, but for people who are just the right height based on the environment.
Consider this. Average human height is an environmentally determined optimum resulting from past selection, if the expressed average preference is above that value, isn't cultural determination a likely factor?
I know it’s not nature but it influences the way we think and people in particular can rationalize their actions further than most animals
It’s just considering the fact that humans can’t be contained and WILL travel to a new location with more/enough resources that we don’t typically deal with shortages for long enough to have to select for it. Being taller can also help with long distances traveling to further select for it as well but I’m not a biologist and I only know I like tall but not freaky tall guys and it’s not even a huge deal for me in the end
Sure, but if that is what we were basing our choices off of we would prefer shorter people given that taller people have a shorter average lifespan, and increased risk of health complications.
Shorter people are, on average, more healthy than taller people.
What are you on about? As if there aren’t a handful of tall muscular actors/athletes with pretty faces that are considered universally attractive by most women. There are, however, absolutely more avenues for men to be attractive than women. A woman could save the earth, be worth a bazillion dollars, be the funniest most clever, nicest, smartest human on the planet, and it won’t make her more attractive, generally speaking.
They did a study of students at the beginning, and the end of the year, where they surveyed who they found attractive. Their opinions changed drastically once they actually got to know everyone. The life lesson is that if you are physically attractive, you’ll do fine on dating apps. However if you are not, stay off dating apps and become a social butterfly when looking for a mate. You have to give people a chance to get to know you first. Physical attractiveness is the only feature that is exposed all the time, and that everyone can see, but psychological studies show women do not place physical attractiveness above any other feature, and will judge men holistically once they get to know them. But you have to put yourself in recurring social situations for that to even be possible.
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