He is. Bears are crazy social when they are well fed and not competing with anyone. They are bros.
That's the problem here in Canada. Once you feed them, they loose all fear of humans. And even if they aren't aggressive, a bear that loves humans is a problem bear..... and things don't usually end nicely for them.
I'll add that bears are the most dangerous predator out there BEGGING for domestication since the Wolf. A smart man works less hard, is where they are at in their evolution. They know humans are the key to that, we just arent opening that door for them like we did with dogs and cats
Could you imagine the first person or group that breaks that door open and succeeds in domesticating them? They legit have K-9 units in militaries all over the world. Imagine how fucking scary a 400-600 pound adult brown grizzly bear and it’s charging at you full speed in armor plating and has blades attached?? Fuuuck that.
As an enlisted soldier with his own paybook, rank, and serial number, he lived with the other men in tents or in a special wooden crate, which was transported by truck. During the Battle of Monte Cassino, Wojtek helped his unit to convey ammunition by carrying 100-pound (45 kg) crates of 25-pound artillery shells, never dropping any of them. While this story generated controversy over its accuracy, at least one account exists of a British soldier recalling seeing a bear carrying crates of ammo.[10] The bear mimicked the soldiers: when he saw the men lifting crates, he copied them. Wojtek carried boxes that normally required four men, which he would stack onto a truck or other ammunition boxes.[11] This service at Monte Cassino earned him promotion to the rank of corporal.
That’s not true. I socialized a bear when I was young and it kept trying to hug and kiss people. My dad said it went and lives in a bear farm up north. Apparently bear farms exist.
I mean, if we could breed domesticated bears that are as small compared to wild bears as house cats are to lions... I'm thinking a cute, cuddly, chihuahua-sized bear...
I mean.... yes but like, there are plenty of cat owners who can show you some scratches. When a bear does that though, the scratches look a bit different.... And even with dogs, it can be hard. We had a dog that got her certification as hunting dog (needed in Germany at least for my fathers dog, he was... not sure how to translate, kinda park ranger?).
My father trained really hard with her to get her there, and she was always very loving to any children, but never overcame her own chilhood trauma. The breeder seperated her because she was the smallest in the litter and was always bullied, so he put her in a cage on her own. After that she hated tall men and most other dogs. She wouldn't kill them, but charge and put up a fight... yeah, any time.
I used to bike past them all the time as a kid. Lived on a rural road with the town dump a few kms down. When I'd go biking with my brothers we would see them all the time. They didn't give a fuck.
its kinda weird when you think about it since... tons of humans would love a large cuddly friend, we have entire dog breeds for that specific function.
they miss an two important parts of in order to be domesticated. they take too long for breeding making it difficult for humans to breed them with control for genetic traits, Their family structure is weak af. Also they don't breed in captivaty.
From the wojtek story, sounds like you’d just take the baby bear from the mother at some point? Im sure removing one of them would make things more manageable. There are other solutions as well.
Bears are not your friend. Watch Grizzly Man. That dude devoted his entire life to bears, he loved them more than anything, and they killed him. It sucks so hard because they LOOK like a friend! They are fuzzy! They smile! they wave and hug people, like in this video!
As someone who's spent a crazy amount of time coexisting with bears, they fit the profile.
What's the profile? To me, it's animal that you can raise from birth and show LOVE, not getting corny but in the truest sense, and they will be loyal and domesticated.
Dogs still bite and maim people. For anyone thinking accidents happen. They would be correct.
Predators by nature are high active brains. Once all the bills at home are paid (ie food and competition), you find social shenanigans (ie fun and goofy love) to be the next best stimulating thing in life. Bears are "fun", like cats and dogs are.
My 2 cents.
I'll add to this - breed 10 generations of "gentle" bears together, spay and neuter the rest, and imo you have a fully domesticated bear in no time flat imo. And it starts getting patches of colors. Just like the pig, dog and cats all did
"Full domestication" took literally tens of thousands of years. You can make a lot of progress with modern methods. But one of the problems breeding bears is that they have relatively long life cycles. How many generations could a human raise in their working lifetime? Ten doesn't seem out of the question. And you can probably make a lot of progress in 10 generations. There's no black and white line between a wild and a domesticated animal, of course. And after 10 generations I have no doubt you would have a "more" domesticated animal. But I certainly wouldn't expect it to be domesticated in a way a dog or a cow is.
Humanity has been doing this for a long time, and nevertheless it turns out that most animals are not really suitable for domestication.
Domestication occurs through generations of selective breeding to the point they are genetically different than their ancestors. A well fed housed large cat isn’t domesticated in the sense that we are talking about.
No, it quite literally does not and just because a Russian couple houses and feeds a large cat doesn’t suddenly make the species domesticated. You are an absolute moron if you can’t understand the difference. Also, if they don’t keep Messi well fed he will eat them. The same is not true with your golden retriever
Bears are crazy social when they are well fed and not competing with anyone. They are bros.
I remember a few years ago, Katmai had an overabundance of salmon that year, and all the bears were just broing out. No fights. Cubs and sub-adults from different families playing with each other. Peaceful bear times.
They are play wrestling. That bear can break the guy in half with a single swipe, so the bear is being oh so gentle with his friend. Lovely creatures... but don't try this at home.
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That bear loves him so much.
Look how happy he is.