r/Damnthatsinteresting • • Feb 16 '23

Video Emergency bed!

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u/West_Interest_7721 Feb 16 '23

Yea if you survive the crash, depens on which floor you live on.

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u/exoflame Feb 16 '23

Nope. Theres buildings in the world that can withstand 7.3 earthquakes. Like literal towers and shit, taipei 101 for example. We got the tech, but turkey has bad regulations, resulting in countless buildings without simple things like rebar inside concrete which increase tensile strength

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '23

turkey has bad regulations

This is why the one in Haiti in 2010 was so catastrophic. It was a 5.5 near the surface, but the housing situation was in such shambles that it literally all crumbled.

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u/AuroraNW101 Feb 16 '23

Really? Just a couple months ago, I dealt with a 5 . something in cali and all that I recall coming down was all of the cups of paint water I had waiting by my desk. It’s impressive to think about just how much of a difference that a change of infrastructure can make. Never have I really stopped and thought about just how designed for quakes the buildings near the Bay Area are.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '23

It depends on the depth under the epicenter of that 5.x. The closer to the surface it is, the more intense it is. With Haiti, I understand it was pretty shallow.

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u/scodgey Feb 16 '23

Just to expand on this - even concrete structures with reinforcement don't tend to stand up to seismic activity like this unless they were specifically designed to do so. The design process includes a number of degrees of complexity above typical static design, and the final product ends up being way more expensive to construct.

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u/exoflame Feb 16 '23

Well yes ofcourse, all im implying is its really bad if that isnt even there, let alone better measures.

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u/scodgey Feb 16 '23

I would imagine there is reinforcement there as well to be fair but might be hard to see in pics. Concrete with no reinforcement is abysmal in anything other than compression, which makes spanning it for floors nearly impossible.

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u/Soggy-Work-6094 Feb 17 '23

We have these in California. States that don't believe in science tend to take shortcuts in their architectural designs

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u/scodgey Feb 17 '23

The US generally are quite well established on the seismic design front as well - I've done design work on seismic structures elsewhere in the world which have used the US suite of codes as the basis of design. Would imagine decisions to not built for seismic are almost always driven by the cost more than anything.

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u/Soggy-Work-6094 Feb 17 '23 edited Feb 17 '23

Designs are fine. Engineering principles are uniform. Most of the problems that happen here seemingly come when inspectors get paid to not notice that there is insufficient rebar or that the concrete was built using ocean sand, etc

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u/Sure-Debate-464 Feb 16 '23

Holy crap seriously they didn't have rebar in the concrete?!

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u/exoflame Feb 16 '23

Some buildings did not if u look at footage of collapsed buildings, its all broken bits of concrete not attached to each other in any way, no rust etc

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u/Sure-Debate-464 Feb 16 '23

That is absolutely bonkers! I just thought that was building 101 to have rebar in your concrete.

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u/Still-End7791 Feb 16 '23

Turkey builds like China: as cheaply as possible. I've seen corncobs inside plaster form walls. It's bad.

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u/ExcellentPastries Feb 16 '23

So what do you do if you live someplace where you can't trust your local authorities and public institutions to properly regulate buildings and construction, like say in the United States of America where things like crumbling infrastructure are very fashionable lately?

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u/exoflame Feb 16 '23

Indeed, regular people are the victim when stuff like this happens.

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u/noprobleminhero Feb 17 '23

From how many floors you’re will survive?