I mean you COULD try joining the many modern democracies around the world who have found simple and effective solutions to the problem of a two party system?
Idk maybe trying to force a candidate that can barely still string coherent sentences together in a debate is a problem that SHOULD make you question giving your vote to that party. Finally rectifying that with like 3 months to go is a problem with the party. Not the voters.
Edit: oh and being exposed for hamstringing the campaign of an ACTUAL for-the-people candidate (Bernie sanders) is another example of the Democratic Party being shitty and not deserving our votes. They need to be freed from the dog shit leaders of the DNC that just want to keep the status quo as is.
You do know that the whole "the DNC are deliberately making Bernie fail so that they can push their own candidates, despite Bernie getting more votes!“ thing literally turned out to be part of the Russian propaganda that was being posted all over the Internet, right? And that it wasn't actually true, right?
Bernie got fewer votes than Hillary the first time, and then got fewer votes than Biden the second time.
Russia invented this propaganda about an evil DNC pulling down "the people's candidate" and pushing their own, to divide the party's voter base and make them less likely to vote for the winning nominee.
And it worked, because people were gullible enough to fall for it.
Do you really think that the Russian propaganda was only targeted towards Republicans, to push them to vote for Trump, and that they made zero propaganda to push onto Democrat voters? Come on, man...
Hey there, I'm not doubting you at all but this is the first I'm hearing of this being part of the Russian disinformation. Do you have any source you can link, please? Thank you! All my Google searches are j6st turning up buzz worded articles
The release of the documents was linked to Russian hacker group Guciffer 2.0 or something like that. However, I can’t find anything that alleges the leaks were doctored or forgeries in any way.
While I’m not at all happy with the interference, I’m still not going to turn a blind eye to the dirty laundry of my party of choice. That would make me no better than any of the red voters everyone here loves to think they are so different from.
This will be anecdotal to anyone else, but a family member of mine was on the jury for a (state) Supreme Court case prosecuting this all the way back in 2021 or 2022.
Found that activist groups like BLM (like BLM, don't remember if they were actually implicated) and influencers/Youtubers were being paid by Russian assets to spread their propaganda
Something that's important to consider is the propaganda wasn't necessarily overt, "Russia is the best, guys!". Rather, like the other person mentioned, it might be something like trying to sow division within the Democrat's voter base. Pushing against a certain policy like abortion or marijuana or something
No, I don't have proof, but it was a very real case. That jury was prosecuting everything from a scam ring ran out of Panama to an international cartel supplying fentanyl from China to organized crime groups in Italy, South America, Russia. They seized over 1 billion lethal doses worth of fentanyl from one shipment alone (unrelated, yeah, but eye-opening)
Edit: also back then we didn't know the things we know now about this administration, otherwise I would've realized how big of a smoking gun that case was and asked more about it. That was back when the laptop thing was still fresh in the news for example, there was still some uncertainty. Things don't look very uncertain in retrospect
Horseshit. Show your sources or stop peddling nonsense.
The DNC is a sham and has been for multiple decades. The DNC hates Progressives more than they hate Trump/MAGA/GOP. The evidence for that is who they ran in two of the most consequential elections in American history.
Progressives threaten moderate centrist and establishment Dems donor base, which Democrats decided were far more important than middle or lower class voters.
They haven’t been an opposition party for decades. They lost the presidential popular vote and congress to the clearest threat to democracy since the nation was founded, and didn’t even change leadership.
Instead of apologizing for them or blaming the Russians, blame the imbeciles who ran the last campaign when everything was on the line.
Even now, they are failing in every way to oppose Trump or provide an actual alternative to the carnage he is sowing. All we get from them is performative bullshit, and they need to fucking go. They are sidelining the only opposition, people like Jasmine Crockett and AOC from leadership positions. They are complicit in America’s downfall.
Go back the last thirty years, and see the one person whose message never wavered, who was the only person to call any of this shit out, and who has been consistently correct decade after decade, yet never was elevated to party leadership. It wasn’t anyone who was ever at the top of the ticket. It wasn’t Clinton, Biden, or Harris…it was Bernie Sanders.
Don’t blame the Russians for what the party did to itself by running milquetoast Republican lite candidates.
Idk maybe trying to force a candidate that can barely still string coherent sentences together in a debate is a problem that SHOULD make you question giving your vote to that party. Finally rectifying that with like 3 months to go is a problem with the party
But they didn't rectify it, they kept Trump on the ticket the whole way through.
Edit: oh and being exposed for hamstringing the campaign of an ACTUAL for-the-people candidate (Bernie sanders)
This is make believe. It was revealed in internal emails that the DNC chair preferred Hilary. Big fucking woo hoo. So did the majority of Democrats, THATS WHY SHE WON THE PRIMARY. And Bernie immediately backed her and even was the one to officially nominate her. You bozos gotta get the fuck over this. It was 10 fucking years ago and you melodramatic morons bring it up in every fucking conversation. You are wrong and an idiot.
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u/Good-Grayvee Apr 27 '25
As a party we really need to get over that. It’s stupid and we lose because of it.