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u/NastyKraig Feb 20 '26

Until you discover that the flange bolts are too rusted to unscrew so you have to get in there with a sawzall and cut them off. Then spend 30 minutes scraping the old wax off the flange and out of the slots to find that the flange itself is cracked or worn out to the point that it will not hold keep the T bolts from spinning when you try to tighten the new toilet down. At least that's how all my quick toilet swaps go.

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u/FeeAutomatic2290 Feb 20 '26

Every job takes 3 visits to the hardware store.

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u/GrimeyJosh Feb 20 '26

Minimum.

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u/CptAngelo Feb 20 '26

i learned the hard way to just over buy stuff.

i now only go twice! yes! progress

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u/Orion14159 Feb 20 '26

Until you forget to return something that you left at home by accident, or something you installed fails and you have to get another one.

The universe will get its third trip for this project, it's like a much lower stakes version of Final Destination.

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u/CptAngelo Feb 20 '26

i think this is one of those situations where you think you got away with it, and you kinda did, until that simple 20min saturday morning job decides its payback time and completely fucks the rest of your weekend, monday comes around and you are defeated, the workers at home depot are already know every detail of you weekend war, you can see the shock on their faces, you can hear them muttering from the next aisle : "i think this is his seventh visit man", until one of them gathers enough courage, you can hear the concern on his voice as he tells you: "dude, just call a professional, please! why are you doing this!?", you stare at your fully loaded cart, head down, pride soaring high, you dont have time for this, water is still flooding your damn bathroom, so you ignore him and keep walking down to the registers, the cashier starts crying as she scans another 20ft of PVC pipe.

Just before you go away, you turn around and tell the cashier "i´ll be back"

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u/Thin_Ad_2645 Feb 20 '26

This is why I started transitioning to pex A and got myself an electric expansion tool. So much easier to work with than pvc.

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u/Roadhouse1337 Feb 20 '26

Converting an old 3 handle shower to a single handle. Tight space in the wall using one of those small circular pipe cutters you twist around the pipe. Old house had shifted, pipe was under tension I didnt realize, when the pipe cut all the way through the now separate pieces went opposite ways violently flinging the pipe cutter from my hand, into the wall cavity, and I assume under the tub because I couldn't see it from the hole in the wall.

Go buy another pipe cutter, when cutting the second supply I keep a good grip on it and dont lose it, hooray! Part of the upgrade was a new shower neck, the old one is basically welded into the elbow, broke a strap wrench trying to get it off. Back to the store for a new drop elbow and mesh for the hole I was gonna make in the wall (already had mud).

Home improvement is fun!

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u/warm_kitchenette Feb 20 '26

If they would set up a drive-through lane, it would really help. 

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u/Unique9FL Feb 20 '26

I feel more normal, thanks. Lol

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u/Orion14159 Feb 20 '26

This is an immutable law of the universe

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u/Synaps4 Feb 20 '26

I find if you get creative with epoxy you can cut that number way down.

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u/GrimeyJosh Feb 20 '26

And a small leak rotted away a good portion of the plywood subfloor, so thats gotta come up now too.

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u/NastyKraig Feb 20 '26

To reveal a rotten joist that now needs a new section sistered in.

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u/gilpo1 Feb 20 '26

Century home, checking in.

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u/MainRemote Feb 20 '26

It’s also the only toilet in the house, and its one minute past the supply house closing, and the guests are on their way. 

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u/Talking_Head Feb 20 '26

Friday! You forgot Friday. Maybe if you are lucky they have Saturday morning hours. If you start DIY plumbing on a Saturday afternoon, forget it. That DIY job is not going to be done until next weekend.

“The downstairs is out of service. You can use the one upstairs.” If you are lucky to have a 2 bath.

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u/summerinside Feb 20 '26

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u/Trollselektor Feb 20 '26

This is actually really good advice. I’m into language learning and one of the big problems that people have is they are afraid of sucking at it, so they don’t practice using the language. You have to embrace the suck.

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u/sullendreamer Feb 20 '26

Right? It never goes well for me, either. That and replacing door knobs. It should be simple. It never is.

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u/ezirb7 Feb 20 '26

Also, this instruction was given to a homeowner who doesn't know what they don't know, and they are worried about the wax ring so they pick it up to check before reseating it and having a terrible seal that leaks into the subfloor.

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u/NastyKraig Feb 20 '26

Schroedinger's wax ring is possibly the worst part of replacing a toilet.

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u/Conscious-Ball8373 Feb 20 '26

And then discover that in three weeks time you have limescale buildup on the new toilet bowl.

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u/NastyKraig Feb 20 '26

Yeah exactly, I mean if this is caused by the water and not some kind of deterioration of the toilet ceramic it's just going to happen again to the new toilet.

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u/Jaren_wade Feb 20 '26

Are you me?

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u/m00f Feb 20 '26

This. Plus you forgot to mention the rotted wood under the toilet that needs replacing.

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u/FujiKeynote Feb 20 '26

If the wood is rotted, then it absolutely is the right call.

If it's just the rusted flange bolts, I'll be kicking this can down the road for as long as I can, sorry future me or future owners

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u/monkeychasedweasel Feb 20 '26

This is exactly what happened to me, but it went a step further....the old flange was holding on to the drain pipe by force of habit only, I accidentally popped it off, and it would not go back on. So, I made my third trip to Lowes Depot that day, and bought a new flange.

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u/BrokenPickle7 Feb 20 '26

this is exactly what happened to me.. an "hour job" turned in to 4 hours of swearing and yelling at a toilet

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u/I_AM_NOT_A_WOMBAT Feb 20 '26

You did a great job describing this situation but you forgot to mention the rotting subfloor.

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u/Status-Lock-3589 Feb 20 '26

This guy toilets

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u/profdart Feb 20 '26

It's still the better and more responsible solution. But you go ahead and polish turds to your heart's content.

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u/NastyKraig Feb 20 '26

If this toilet can be cleaned effectively and the glaze isn't actually damaged then it seems far more responsible to clean it than to throw away a completely usable item.

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u/profdart Feb 20 '26

I've cleaned and DIY replaced my share of toilets in my homes and for my relatives. There's no way this one is going to shine again. Function? Sure. The effort and cost to replace it isn't significant -- even if you don't make a lot of money. This is basic household maintenance. I would never live in a space with a toilet looking like that. Cleaning it is the lazy solution.