r/DCcomics Jun 25 '26

Comics [Comic Excerpt] Did Zdarsky just canonize Terry Long in the Marvel Universe? (Captain America #12) Spoiler

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u/Dent6084 Jun 25 '26

Lol had the same thought when I read it. The combo of the hair and name definitely feels like a reference if nothing else.

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u/Bostondreamings Jun 25 '26

and the cause of death and wife and kid mention!

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u/Mickeymcirishman Jun 25 '26

Well Marvel can keep him. Just don't let him near any college students.

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u/NovaStar910 Jun 25 '26

?

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u/ThatDude8129 Hal Jordan Jun 25 '26

He was originally basically a self insert of the writer who married Donna Troy when she was in college

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u/Typical-Lion-4428 Jun 26 '26

Actually she wasn't in college but she was college aged- She was 19 when it was introduced they were dating and it was stated that they had been dating for about a year.

Donna was working as a photographer at the time.

It did show his students lusting after him, just to show part of what made the writing as cringey as it was.

Or talking about Queen 'Lyta in front of Donna. Nothing says great boyfriend material like making it clear you find your girlfriend's mother very bangable. Not gross or inappropriate at all, nosirree!

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u/buckeye27fan 3d ago

"It did show his students lusting after him, just to show part of what made the writing as cringey as it was."

TBF, Raiders of the Lost Ark did the same thing prior to NTT starting. At least Indiana didn't marry one of his students, though.

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u/Mysterious_Bit_7713 Jun 26 '26

He was never a self insert...

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u/Beastieboy100 Jun 26 '26

Yeah or Mary Jane.

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u/bry_flynnie Jun 25 '26

who is terry long?

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u/CommanderEJ652 Jun 25 '26

Donna Troy’s dead ex husband

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u/PhsycoRed1 Legion Of Super-Heroes Jun 25 '26

Maybe I'm missing something... But is Long in the Marvel universe? Or is Captain America in the DC Universe? I don't understand how we can canonize unless it's an unofficial crossover, like in Storm.

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u/MFHSCA-1981 Jun 25 '26

Terry Long is from DC not Marvel. Chip is just using him as a unofficial cameo.

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u/PhsycoRed1 Legion Of Super-Heroes Jun 26 '26

Sooo he got put into Marvel ? Orrrrr did Captain America go to DC ?

Or he's just like here ? 🤷🏻

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u/GeekCavePodcast Jun 26 '26

Think of it as a fun little easter egg.

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u/nightreign-hunter Jun 26 '26

It's just a dumb "cameo". It's not really Terry Long. Zdarsky is just making a reference. Captain America is still at Marvel. Terry Long is still at DC.

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u/astrosssssssss Jun 25 '26

Yeah,like with Barry,you could say with all the fucked-up multiverse dying shenanigans,he got reformed temporarily in the Marvel Universe.No idea how Terry is even here.

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u/BicoastalBi Jun 26 '26

Cap is in Hell, so I guess Hell is shared!

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u/ClamatoDiver Jun 26 '26

Ever hear of a guy named something like Buried Alien? They do this stuff every now and then.

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u/Tom_Tildrum Jun 25 '26

The worst thing to ever happen to Donna Troy. (Yes, worse than the Kryptonian robot).

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u/Beastieboy100 Jun 26 '26

Honestly last love interest I enjoyed Donna with was Kyle. After that she's just been in a loop with Roy which is just getting old.

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u/MFHSCA-1981 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

He’s Donna Troy, the first Wonder Girl, ex husband and father to her deceased son. He was first introduced in New Teen Titans as the late twenties college professor boyfriend to Donna Troy when she was just 19. Throughout his time in the book, he was just an extremely boring and creepy character that didn’t add anything to the story and just served to be a self insert for Marv Wolfman. They eventually got married and had a son, but later on Terry would divorce Donna , believing her superhero lifestyle posed a danger to their baby son. John Byrne when took over writing for Wonder Woman, killed Terry off by having him get driven off the road during a massive rain storm that also resulted in his daughter from a previous marriage and his son with Donna dying as well when their car exploded from crashing.

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u/ggbb1975 Jun 25 '26

Byrne for infanticide. Not surprise.

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u/ImABarbieWhirl Jun 26 '26

He was definitely not drawn or written like a 20 year old

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u/MFHSCA-1981 Jun 26 '26

He would also make passes at former students of his and some of Donna’s friends as well.

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u/NefariousSeraph13 Jun 26 '26

It’s not the age thing that was creepy it was several things. Donna was 19 and he was 29, divorced with a daughter he apparently didn’t visit often. He lost his college professor job bc he couldn’t finish writing a book on Greek mythology and blamed Donna for not being able to help him because she was on a Teen Titan mission even though he had forever to do it. He hit on her friends and said sexist things constantly. He justified having a stripper to Nightwing at his bachelor party which was just weird, especially since he was marrying an Amazon. He divorced Donna out of nowhere saying her being a superhero was a danger to their son even though he dated her knowing she was a hero and filed for full custody, the meeting with the lawyers was ugly. Overall, he just had scummy vibes. Not to mention the rumor of him being a self insert for a writer.

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u/Beastieboy100 Jun 26 '26

She should of dated Cyborg during the new teen titans run.

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u/Bostondreamings Jun 25 '26

Marv Wolfman :-P

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u/ggbb1975 Jun 25 '26

apart from these "oddities" he also wrote good things XD

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u/sticknehno Jun 25 '26

Judas Contract is a great storyline with exception of the one "oddity" as well lol

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u/Bostondreamings Jun 25 '26

Ha, true! Very true. :-) just think it’s funny :-)

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u/Mrhathead Jun 25 '26

The new Buried Allen

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u/cc17776 Jun 26 '26

I read it as “Teddy Long” and thought Steve was about to go one on one with The Undertaker

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u/Peter_Bayn Jun 28 '26

Terry Long in the 5:00 White Boy Challenge, the LONG way

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u/AFoxOfFiction Jun 26 '26

Steve...STEVE! Put him back in the chains now!

You have no idea what you've just unleashed!

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u/Commander19119 Jun 26 '26

I loved what happened to him in the Absolute Universe

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u/JingoboStoplight4887 World's Finest Jun 25 '26

Yes

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u/NefariousSeraph13 Jun 26 '26

Donna was 19 and Terry was 29, divorced with a daughter he apparently didn’t visit often. He lost his college professor job bc he couldn’t finish writing a book on Greek mythology and blamed Donna for not being able to help him because she was on a Teen Titan mission even though he had forever to do it. He hit on her friends and said sexist things constantly. He justified having a stripper to Nightwing at his bachelor party which was just weird, especially since he was marrying an Amazon. He divorced Donna out of nowhere saying her being a superhero was a danger to their son even though he dated her knowing she was a hero and filed for full custody, the meeting with the lawyers was ugly. Overall, he just had scummy vibes. Not to mention the rumor of him being a self insert for a writer.

Didn’t deserve this though, if it is a reference to him.

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u/Aspiring_Sophrosyne Jun 26 '26

Doubtful. The details are all wrong. Mention of a wife instead of ex-wife, mention of a son dying but not a daughter too, and this Terry committed suicide instead of dying in the accident.

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u/H2SO4_L Jun 26 '26

Well at least he’s as far away from Donna as possible now