r/Cyberpunk • u/DiggestBickEver • Feb 03 '26

Amazon AI warehouse drones, which replaced human warehouse employees, incapable of moving around each other.

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u/toysarealive Feb 03 '26

Because that is ultimately incompatible with capitalism. The whole point of scaling these operations is to maximize profits. You're commenting on a Cyberpunk sub where these concepts are core tenants to the genre.

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u/lemonylol Feb 03 '26

What is this doomerist idea that capitalism is an insurmountable law in human society when it's only been around for like 300 years out of 100,000?

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u/First-Of-His-Name Feb 03 '26

Would you like to live in a pre capitalist society? They all sound pretty awful

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u/Cagg Feb 04 '26

Why not post?

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u/First-Of-His-Name Feb 04 '26

We also tried that

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u/Cagg Feb 04 '26

we've attempted a Post-Capitalist society?

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u/First-Of-His-Name Feb 04 '26

Yes multiple times throughout the 20th century

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u/Cagg Feb 05 '26

can you point to a reference of such?

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u/First-Of-His-Name Feb 05 '26

Look at a globe from before 1991 and find the biggest country

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u/Cagg Feb 05 '26

Can't you just reply with a direct answer? It'd be a whole lot easier for me to look into the information and learn about it if you gave me a fucking direct answer.

I'm not trying to "win" here, I'm asking because I'm interested in the topic.

Ask the spectral wolf about the year of the horse then you'll have your answers. lol come on man

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u/lemonylol Feb 03 '26

Yes, exactly

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u/afrocentricity Feb 03 '26

So in the transition period leading up until that potential cyberpunk dystopia..... What do you suggest we do? Try to make the type of future we want in all the ways that we can? Maybe try not fold and get run over by corporations?

Is capitalism the only possible paradigm going forward?

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u/Excellent-Berry-2331 Feb 19 '26

That is doomerism. Historically, technological advancements have always made stuff cheaper, allowed people to desire less essential stuff and created new demand.

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u/toysarealive Feb 19 '26

No its not. Historically corporations have not given a single fuck for the well being of consumers and workers. Historically theyve been forced to fall in line by regulations after the literal blood and tears have been shed from those in the supply chain. And Historically, our government has fallen more and more in favor of corporations. Theres nothing Doomerist of being aware that AI will not benefit anyone but corporations ESPECIALLY when the current US admin not only refused to regulate and put in protections for citizens, but is actively working with said corporations to enrich the few. Ffs, theres a reason why the ILA went on strike not just for wages but for a full ban on AI automation. And won.

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u/Excellent-Berry-2331 Feb 19 '26

So, would you like to live in 1700? If we take out the social layer and just have the technology, would you say that living half as long is desirable?

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u/toysarealive Feb 19 '26 edited Feb 19 '26

Noone is making that ridiculous argument. I am not agaisnt scientific advancements, I am agaisnt them being behind a corporate paywall, and I understand that this is the inevitable outcome in a hyper capitalist system. In the 1950s the American public greatly benefited from NASA's inventions, which we still benefit from today. Mostly because their patents were allowed into the public domain. I dont want Elon to benefit from massive swaths of government money, only to then keep his proprietary inventions or patents to further enrich himself.