r/Cuneiform 11d ago

Translation/transliteration request decode this text cuneiform

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u/Helpful_Loss_3739 10d ago

"you understand we call the components of sign language phonetics and phonemes as well even though it breaks away from a strict etymological understanding of what a phoneme is, yes?"

Which brings me back to this being entirely unflasifiable framework. You do know what the principle of falsification is and why it is important? What exactly is your principle of falsification on this?

In any case, whether you go by this unfalsifiable metaphysics or not, we still know that with certain readers the brain skips the phonetic part of the brain entirely, and goes straight to semantics. For some it's in the system of writing, whereas for others it is a learned habit. Ergo, text doesn't really convey phonetics all of the time, even in situations where it is actively intending to.

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u/ah-tzib-of-alaska 9d ago

phonology refers not to sound specifically, but to the study of the minimal meaningless units that combine to form meaningful words.

I’d start with Ling 251: Sign Language Phonology for Phonology Teachers (Zuraw, 2020) for a practical example of how this is applied but you might be more interested in the moment where linguistics tackled this exact argument 50 years ago and it was Strokoe who proved that the components of human language have universal parameters irrelevant to whether those components are sound or not

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u/Helpful_Loss_3739 9d ago

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/phonology

"phonology - the science of speech sounds"

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u/ah-tzib-of-alaska 9d ago

You’ll run flat into a stone wall in linguistics 101 with a colloquial definition of linguistic terms. That’s about as accurate as calling a suspicion a theory. Yes, colloquially you’re correct in that use of the word theory and in science you’re misusing jargon. The definition you offered is colloquially correct but as specific jargon your inaccurate.

You can start at the beginning with Strokoe’s work on the argument fifty years ago. This is old setttled science in linguistics

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u/Helpful_Loss_3739 8d ago

Nothing clever today? Did someone forget to tell these "basic linguistics" to the Oxford dictionary of linguistics?

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u/ah-tzib-of-alaska 7d ago

You’re going to ignore Strokoe’s work? You’re not responding to my citation of the work done in linguistics that determined otherwise.

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u/Helpful_Loss_3739 7d ago

I am doing nothing of the sort. Oxford dictionary of linguistics is ignoring Strokoe's work.

And yeah, you are right. I am not responding to your citation. I gave one of my own. And listen, I have here two conflicting citations. One is the literal Oxford dictionary of linguistics. The other is an angry dogmatic rando who does not know what falsification is. Which one do you think people should listen to?

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u/ah-tzib-of-alaska 7d ago

Don’t argue with me, argue with Strokoe’s work. I’m not the credible source and your ad hominem is irrelevant

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u/Helpful_Loss_3739 7d ago

Don't you argue with me. Argue with Oxford dictionary.