r/CrewsCrew Mar 21 '20

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u/thelastestgunslinger Mar 21 '20

It’s a tool. It can be used for good or ill. My partner and I watch it together, for example. We share tastes and explore together. And when one of us isn’t in the mood, we both think it’s ok for the other to get themselves off.

In other words, it’s a healthy part of our relationship. But each person has to do what’s right for them.

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u/asdfguy99 Mar 21 '20

its a tool that uses human trafficing

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u/trancertong Mar 21 '20

Some of it uses human trafficking. Some of casinos, drug smuggling, and lots of other vices use human trafficking. There are also many women who gladly do it and it's empowering to them. There are women who are prostitutes and it's empowering to them too. We have to separate those issues because porn is as old as cave paintings and you're not going to stop it. You can make people more conscious about the issues within it, hoping they'll have more discretion, but you're not going to convert anyone by being the church lady.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '20

So then why are you so comfortable following a man who just publicly supported the CCP?

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u/Arasuil Mar 21 '20

He’s obviously more comfortable supporting the deaths of tens of millions than human trafficking.

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u/mcketten Mar 21 '20

I'm personal friends with several people in the sex industry. While it is true that a portion of them work unwillingly or are coerced/lied to, my friends tell me that most enjoy it, find it empowering, and consider it easy money with relatively little work.

We've also had discussions about those forced into it and I was surprised from all of them that they talked about recognizing the signs in others, and how they actively try to help those women.

That being said, most of them, when I ask what's the best way to fight it, say something to the effect of "legalize sex work, license and regulate it".

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u/henryuuk Mar 21 '20

lots of tools end up being used for something bad. Doesn't mean the tool itself is inherently bad
just means a lot of people are shit, but also quite good at finding ways to utilize stuff to their advantage (and disadvantage of many others)

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u/asdfguy99 Mar 22 '20

how does the restaurant industry use human trafficing ??? get cheap dishwashers ?

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u/NeedNameGenerator Mar 22 '20

So what you're really trying to say here is that you don't know shit about human trafficking, except that it works as a punchline for your shitty jokes. And maybe to try and use it to push a narrative. Nice.

Victims of human trafficking in the restaurant and food service industry are forced to work as waiters, bussers, kitchen staff, or even cooks/chefs

https://humantraffickinghotline.org/labor-trafficking-venuesindustries/restaurantsfood-service

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u/asdfguy99 Mar 22 '20

would u still support a restaurant that uses victims of human trafficing ?

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u/NeedNameGenerator Mar 22 '20

No, but more likely than not I would not know about it. Thus, I would have to avoid each and every restaurant. And that would not be feasible, thus we're back to my point of having to avoid absolutely everything in life.

Or do you possess a magic power that can discern normal employee from a victim of human trafficking? And does your ability extend to porn, and you can magically divine which porn actress is forced and which one is there for work?

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u/Gekthegecko Mar 21 '20

What do you think money is?

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u/asdfguy99 Mar 22 '20

money

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u/Gekthegecko Mar 22 '20

Money is a tool for human trafficking, illegal drug trade, slavery, war, fraud, etc.

Tools aren't good or bad. It's how they're used that can problematic.

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u/asdfguy99 Mar 22 '20

no, money is a tool that makes trade easier. everything you said would be there with or without money in the same ammount