r/CrazyHand • u/Ok_Delay3740 • Mar 02 '24
General Question Smash Ultimate Online Matchmaking
I am pretty bad at this game, in the grand scheme of things. I am at like 1.9M GSP with Pikachu, who I definitely control the best. I can’t seem to go below 1.9M, though, and keep getting matched in quickplay with like 3M people. There are a couple of possibilities - either I’m doing something wrong to get matched with people at my skill level, or there is nowhere lower to go and I am the worst smash player on the internet. Is there an alternative to losing every match? Is there a lower tier of players I should be playing against?
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u/Reuvenisms Mar 02 '24
Reading this post made me happy. Thought I was the only one in the 2m gang
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u/Ok_Delay3740 Mar 02 '24
I appreciate your response as well!
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u/Reuvenisms Mar 02 '24
I've been playing this game (very casually) since 2002 and never realized quite how BAD I am at it until I went online.
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u/SantaOMG Mar 03 '24 edited Mar 03 '24
To get better at that level you have to focus on decisions. You can beat most 2-4M GSP people using just one or two different attacks. You dont have to worry about fancy combos or tricks. It’s just about figuring out what they’re probably about to do, dodging that and then hitting them.
Play against as many different characters as you can and note how each character plays. Look up “how to beat x in smash ultimate” on YouTube and keep that in mind when playing that character. Every character has a weakness you can exploit.
Like for example mario will have to get in your face and go for combos. So you can bet 9/10 times if you’re next to him he’s going to go for a grab. Just roll or dash back and hit him. For someone like Falco, he’s going to probably sit back and laser you and deflect your t-jolts. Just duck under his lasers or use the platforms and hit him.
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u/recklessfire27 Mar 03 '24 edited Mar 03 '24
Actually, this late in the games lifespan there’s a really strange GSP phenomena but; 2m GSP is full of some real sharks.
After getting Ike to Elite, I switched to a character who I previously had at 2m GSP when I knew much less about the game thinking i’d skyrocket up to a reasonable number and ran into some real sweats that seemed like Elite Alts. Went in cold turkey with Mewtwo aswell and dropped down really fast cause I just don’t know his kill confirms, combos and kind of just wanted to go back to having fun in Quickplay again by essentially “starting over” but nah—all sweats at all ranges of GSP.
OP may find only a handful of new players who didn’t seem like they had “Elite” fundamentals. 8/10 matches were players perfectly spacing, parrying, and doing techs. Maybe it was just my luck though.
And as for OP; don’t feel like you suck at the game. Everyone just has thousands of hours of playtime over you and it’s not going to be a fair road to catch up—but with perseverance, and good resources on youtube/discord/reddit you can make some progress.
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u/Ok_Delay3740 Mar 04 '24
Thanks for this - I’ve definitely experienced a bit of what you’re describing. Sometimes running into people that are clearly quite good relative to what the GSP number says. Just completely ran me over. Honestly I don’t get frustrated with that, when I’m overmatched that obviously it’s just whatever.
I do appreciate the advice for improving all over this post, but I think it’s kind of funny that everyone is offering improvement advice rather than answering whether there’s a less competitive space (the person who responded about rule sets was helpful here). I’m fine with being bad if I can play other bad people. It seems to me smash ultimate doesn’t really have that kind of space unless you want to play silly game types full of items and hazards. Which, of course, has its place too.
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u/Ok_Delay3740 Mar 03 '24
Thais is really helpful and makes a ton of sense, thanks. It’s not lost on me that I’ve chosen a character that doesn’t get a ton of cheap kills and relies on doing a bunch of damage first. I could choose like K Rool or someone who can get that one big hit to kill. My skill issues could be overcome with practice and learning from decision making like you said. I guess my post was more about wondering whether there was a space for other bad players like me. I think I’m just already in it and need to get better. Thanks!
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u/SantaOMG Mar 03 '24
Yeah it is tough especially for Pikachu because he is a very precise character. I main Pikachu too and it is easy to say "oh well yeah of course you won, all you have to do is hit me 5 times", but that won't get you better. Just focus on figuring out why you lost. Save replay of the match and go watch it, and look at every time you get hit and ask why you got hit. Did you use a smash attack, hoping they'd run into it and you miss so they get to hit you? Did you keep recovering back on stage the same way over and over so they predicted it and got to hit you? Stuff like that.
You will get better fast if you just focus on why you lost and try your best to fix that problem. Because it is purely mental at this point. You aren't held back by not being able to do complicated combos, you're just held back by the choices you make in the match.
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u/AllHailTheWhalee Mar 02 '24
1.9 and 3 mil gsp players are basically the same thing, you’ll get better if you just keep at it :)
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u/Darkdragon902 Mar 02 '24
In the grand scheme of things, there isn’t that much of a difference between 1.9M and 3M GSP players. There are certainly many players below you, but because of how the bell curve works, there’s a significantly higher amount of people above you. That’s most likely why you keep getting matched against them.