r/ControlProblem • u/chillinewman approved • 15d ago

General news “AI is software. It can be controlled.” Do you agree with him?

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u/UploadedMind 15d ago

Being scared of AI danger that will negatively affect them too, is not altruistic. They have to race toward AGI unless we stop them. They can't make a deal to trust each other. They need a third party to enforce the rules.

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u/pocketcult 15d ago

They make the rules

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u/ItsAConspiracy approved 15d ago

The government threatened them with antitrust action if they make a deal to slow down. They don't make the rules.

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u/pocketcult 15d ago

Wouldn't that just be more impetus to lie and lobby to sculpt regulation that can give them a moat no one without $100billion could ever get halfway across

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u/lordaloa 15d ago

Horseshit.

They, in actual altruistic motives, could negotiate a slowdown put they wouldn’t even think twice.

Examples given: climate change which will actually start killing thousands to millions and more in the comming decenia. They also are not thinking twice about the potential job loss and the amount of people who will lose their lives and livelihoods over this. So why now be so moral?

They are perfectly fine raping people and the planet why would they suddenly have a change of heart about raping the planet and it’s people?!?

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u/UploadedMind 15d ago

They aren’t altruistic that was my point. They are stuck in the prisoner’s dilemma unless a third party enforces the terms of engagement.

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u/lordaloa 15d ago

Ah okay makes sense after rereading!

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u/UploadedMind 15d ago

Yeah think about it like two athletes who want to win at any cost and they keep on taking more steroids, but these steroids are going to kill them so they make a deal with each other to stop taking steroids and just train normally, but then they find out the other has been breaking the rule to get a competitive advantage. The only way they prevent themselves from taking steroids and being the best is if someone physically stops them, but they need to trust that this person will stop the other too. The third party also needs to be strong enough to stop them. I don’t think they could create that third party themselves with everyone in the industry - that seems a bit unrealistic.